First Timer Needs Help (anavar)

[newbie94]

i am a competitive athlete who has a whole season off from sport, and am feeling behind in my strength, and feel like i could definitely cut a few pounds to become a more athletic player in my sport. I have been lifting for 4, the last year being the most serious, and on a lifting program within my sport.

i am currently 20yrs old.
6'2"
258lbs
bf : 23% + (not 100% certain at the moment, but over 20 for sure)
max squat : 365lbs
bench : 225 x 1

my goals are somewhat specific (i think), i would like to do one cycle, and a couple of fellow athletes recommended looking into anavar and i must say my preliminary research looks pretty positive. a major concern for me is to just to what relatively quick cycle to see some gains in strength most importantly, cut some of the excess body fat. A major factor is having something that will be out of my system quite fast, as drug/performance enhancing testing is a possibility when i return to play next season.

i would like something that isn't to intense, and that will allow me to maintain as much of my strength gains as possible, with as few side effects as possible, and is oral.

i guess im just looking for any advice that someone with a strong knowledge can provide me.

i hope i've provided enough details for an educated response, again its my first time posting, or looking into taking anything, so im quite new to the whole thing.

thanks

[D7M]

I think you're too young to cycle, and it's not worth the risk to your health or your ability to play your sport.

Believe it or not, your goals probably be achieved just through diet.

[HawaiianPride.]

Solid post. I commend you for putting out all the details including your goals. But as stated above, you are too inexperienced, too young, and you are carrying too much adipose tissue to be cycling.

Stick to really dialing down on your nutrition and focus on cardiovascular training at least 3 times per week. Preferably HIIT for optimal fat loss. For strength I would look into implementing a 5x5 routine, or a conventional split that focuses on low volume/heavy weight.

[newbie94]

well i don't want to be too persistent here, but i guess the more informed i can be the better !

i guess i just wonder why i hear about many of the other players, or opponents taking it at this exact point in their careers before they have reached they upper years in the sport, and become a much higher target for testing, and for some of these athletes it has provided them with a great push to bring them over the top, and even make it to the professional level.

i just really have been let down by my upper body strength over the last few years, and feel like it is not progressing what so ever. for example, last august during testing i was unable to lift 225, so i ended up repping 185x4. At this point a year later (although my summer training tailed off a bit, the rest of the year i was dedicated to my training, and supervised with it) i find myself still only able to lift 225 for 1 rep.

so i am in need of some form of help. and i dont quite know where to turn, i was really surprised yesterday when i had literally a group of about 10 other teammates suggest the idea of steroids with my year off from competition, and thus testing as well.

any suggestions on a solid chest regiment would be more then welcome as well for maximum strength gains (the key is im not trying to body build, im trying to compete in my sport)

thanks again, i appreciate your input

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

so i am in need of some form of help. and i dont quite know where to turn

This is simple, seriously. Diet! Here is the problem though, putting together a solid diet and sticking with it is much harder than taking a pill. Your goals can easily be achieved via diet/nutrition ALONE.

At 20 you will shut yourself down if you take any aas which will set you up for ED and HRT/TRT by the time you are 30 (if that).

Regardless, getting back to your original post, there are no orals that a newby should take. The least damaging aas is administered via syringe. Take advantage of your natural production right now and make the right choices, you will be happy you did!

[ScotchGuard02]

I had a very stimulating debate with another member a little while back on when was the earliest time a healthy adult male should start taking AAS. After lot of research and debating this is the conclusion I came to. The male endocrine system, primarily the sexual reproduction system, matures between 18 - 20 years old. There are 9 glands and almost 100 hormones in your body. Let's say that they all become mature between 18 -22. Physically, most of the healthy adult population can cycle about that time. 25 is the age most experienced BB advise people to cycle. It takes some time for the emotion to mature and get ready for the dramatic changes in the body. I think this is sound advice. You have to be the one to make the final decision.

[Lifeguard102]

You're a big guy to begin with.
Your carrying too much fat though.
Ask guys to post up a flawless diet .
Put your goals there and you will get the key to the success you seek.
Guys on the field may suggest anavar but orals are not considered ideal for a first timer. I know guys start gear at younger ages today than before but try and hold off. The guys you play with aren't as smart about AAS , cycling , pct and most importantly DIET, as the guys on here.
Good luck and PM me if you have further questions.
Life

[TKO Performance]

The issue with higher body fat is that you will not get the results you want. Typically "cutting" steroids only work for guys who are 15% or less. Above that there is little chance you will see much of a cut in fat. Instead you open yourself up for a greater chance of side effects. Anavar seems safe, and it is for an oral steroid , but it is still a drug, and it is still being taken for a purpose other than that for which it was designed. There are still risks for people over 25, but much, much greater risks for those under. Risks that make taking it at your age a really bad idea.

It's obvious from your stats that your muscle balance is off. My max squat is probably around 375-400 (haven't done them in a very long time, typically just do reps 4 sets of 12 with 250-275 as I don't need any more leg mass), and max bench is about 350 (haven't maxed in a long while, but have done 320x2 and 300x4, so I know I'm very close). Your max squat is right there with mine, but your max bench is a weight I can bench 12-16 times after I'm done with a heavy pyramid (drop set). I'm not trying to rip on you, I'm giving you this info for point of comparison.

Item number one, above all else you need to get your diet in order. If your diet is not in order nothing will get you the results you want, not even steroids. All gains start with diet, period. If you need help, trust me you probably need help, check out the diet forum, or PM me and I'll work out a plan for you.

Item number two, you need to get a serious chest training routine that will get your bench where you want it. My guess is that since your chest has been lagging you've been training it a lot. Most likely you're over training it. If you're training chest more than once a week you're over training it. You will never make gains when over trained. Those muscle must recover in order to grow and increase your strength. I love bench myself, so I've devoted a lot of time and effort into learning how to increase it. Here's a good program:

Train chest once a week. Use an A week/B week system. For the first week (A week) you do flat sets as follows:

Benchpress: warmup followed by 4 sets of 10 reps
Incline (or decline) press: 4 sets of 10 reps
Flys (dumbell or machine) or Pullovers: 4 sets of 10 reps

B Week:
Benchpress: warmup, 1 set 10 reps, 1 set 8 reps, 1 set 6 reps, 1 set 4 reps, 1 drop set (weight lower than first set of 10 for max number of reps)
Decline (or incline) press: 4 sets of 10
Flys (dumbell or machine) or Pullovers: 4 sets of 10

You want to use a weight that allows you to complete a full number of reps with your first set. After that you should start dropping off by 1-2 reps. If you are not getting half of the reps in your final set the weight is too high. Do the same weight until you complete all your sets with full reps, then bump up by 10 lbs for the next time. If you need more info or have questions PM me.