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08-27-2010, 05:54 PM #1New Member
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Another Newbie
Okay, so I've been on here the last few days just reading in hopes of not coming off as a complete idiot.
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30 years old
197 lbs
10-12% bf (est. - the last time I was tested was over a year ago at 10.8%)
I did one cycle of Test 400 about 5 years ago with no PCT. I didn't really know what I was doing, but I had great results and held onto most of my gains for quite a while. Now however, I'm not looking to get bigger, but I really want to get more vascular and cut. I know that a lot of that has to do with diet. I'm pretty good right now, but I'm getting a lot of knowledge from this site already about diet.
Before I found this site, I was thinking I wanted to do a cycle of Winnie, but now that I've done some homework here, I think that wouldn't have been a good decision. I'm now thinking a Var only cycle might be a better way for me to go. Based off what I've read, I'm thinking 6 weeks, but I'm still not sure on the doses I should be taking. I've seen everything from 20 mg per day to 100 mg per day. Being that I'm not concerned about putting on size, but would like to get stronger and have more definition, what would you guys recommend?
Also, what would be the preferred PCT? I've seen posts that recommend Clomid and Nolva. What would be the better direction to go based on what I'm looking to achieve?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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08-27-2010, 06:55 PM #2
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08-27-2010, 07:04 PM #3
i take 60 mg ed of var.30 in morning 30 after dinner.love it.with anavar u might not need any pct. some say u do some like myself dont need it.
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Height?
How did you check your body fat?
If you're 10-12% bf you shouldn't need to cut that much fat.
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08-28-2010, 03:41 AM #5Member
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40-50mg/day for 6-8 weeks of Anavar . You will need liver support while on the cycle because it is a 17aa and thus liver toxic. Liv52 or Milk Thistle are good choices. Some guys report libido issues from Anavar, so I would have some Tribulus and some Avena Sativia on hand in case such symptoms manifest.
You absolutely need PCT with Anavar. Anavar is still suppressive of natural test production. Depending on sensitivity this could cut natural test down to as low as 2% (another member here posted this along with the bloodwork results to back it up). However, PCT can be more mild than with other steroids . I would suggest either Nolva at 20/20/20 or Clomid at 50/50/50 (dose in mg/day for a three week course of PCT). Begin PCT immediately after stopping the Anavar.
Anavar will help you get more cut, but don't expect much in terms of mass gain. You might see 5-7lbs on average, some guys have reported up to 12, but you aren't going to add like 25lbs like you could with test. If you want mass and cut maybe consider a stack with test and Anavar.
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08-28-2010, 06:55 PM #6New Member
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Thanks for all your help so far. Sorry for the missing stat - I'm 6'0".
I've always been pretty lean, in my younger years (high school) when I was playing water polo, I got down to 5% bf. I know I probably won't ever be there again, but I'd like to be as lean as possible.
When I was tested about a year ago (at 10.8%), they were using calipers at the gym. I know it's not nearly as accurate as water testing, but it's all I had to go by.
As to liver support, I hadn't thought of it. I'm leaning towards Var because I read that it's 1. easy on the liver 2. doesn't have many side effects and 3. will help me get leaner and more vascular. Is there something else that you would recommend that would help me more than Anavar ?
Also, when I was doing the cycle of test, I took one injection per week, so I assumed it was always in my system for that time frame. With Var, I'm supposed to take it every day. If I'm lifting 3 days, taking 1 day off, lifting 3, taking 1 day off, etc, etc... Do I still take Var on my day off?
And finally, as to PCT, would either Nolva or Chlomid be more beneficial to me than the other?
Thanks again for all your help.
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08-28-2010, 07:02 PM #7
I don't condone the use of oral only. None whatsoever. People have had great results, but Test is generally the safer route and can bring out all the positive side effects any oral will bring with less haptoxicity.
With that being said, stick with Test. 2 SERM PCT. AI on hand.
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