Deca, Test, Tren cycle up 23lbs

**buffteen** · 08-30-2010, 06:05 PM

Thought I'd post my cycle for feedback. Just started on 8/20.

Deca 900/wk
Test E 600/wk
Tren A 120 EOD
Test P 100 EOD
Halotestin 20 ED
Insulin 50iu ED

running halo only for 6wks, rest for 12. Cycled on/off last 8 years. I'm fairly impressed at how quickly my body has responded but it has been almost a year since last cycle.

What concerns me is that I may be holding too much water and not sure if that is indicative of something. I'm 5'7 and was 225 when I started 10 days ago. Scale this morning said 248.6. Now I like not being able to fit in my clothes but it is starting to look like I have kankles. No flab on me but the lower legs do look overly big. suggestions?

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-30-2010, 06:11 PM

23lbs in 10 days is impressive. Although it's plenty of water guaranteed. How's your ancillaries look?

Are those doses really that necessary for your goals?

**jeallybean78** · 08-30-2010, 06:15 PM

seems like a lot of deca

**GOONBAH** · 08-30-2010, 06:31 PM

do u use anything for progesterone while using deca and tren together...

have u combined the 2 before?

**Bigmax** · 08-30-2010, 07:10 PM

Bro, run a AI asap and watch your sodium intake...that type of gain is def a hit on the heart..plus i cannot see at all how anyone would think thats muscle you gained...

**dieseljimmy** · 08-30-2010, 08:44 PM

Now that is a cycle I can get on board with. I run heaver cycles and wieght between 240 and 270 so I have two "sets" of clothes. Anytime I go over 20 unit of insulin I start feeling fat and start looking fat a few days later. I might knock the insulin down to 10-15 units post workout only. Even though I have read 5-7 units is enough for a good anabolic response with out causing any major changes in your natural insulin production.

**Vitruvian-Man** · 08-30-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by buffteen

Thought I'd post my cycle for feedback. Just started on 8/20.

Deca 900/wk
Test E 600/wk
Tren A 120 EOD
Test P 100 EOD
Halotestin 20 ED
Insulin 50iu ED

running halo only for 6wks, rest for 12. Cycled on/off last 8 years. I'm fairly impressed at how quickly my body has responded but it has been almost a year since last cycle.

What concerns me is that I may be holding too much water and not sure if that is indicative of something. I'm 5'7 and was 225 when I started 10 days ago. Scale this morning said 248.6. Now I like not being able to fit in my clothes but it is starting to look like I have kankles. No flab on me but the lower legs do look overly big. suggestions?

The slin' is what's making you gain so rapidly. Why not reduce the slin' dose, since you haven't cycled in a year? 10-15iu post-workout and late night should be plenty.

I would start a-dex @ 0.25mg/eod, and run it for the duration of the cycle.

Good luck with the rest of your cycle bro..

-VM

**buffteen** · 08-31-2010, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

23lbs in 10 days is impressive. Although it's plenty of water guaranteed. How's your ancillaries look?

Are those doses really that necessary for your goals?

Def holding water. I guess the deca is a little high but I thought that it might be beneficial to start out a little high on that dose because I rolled my left ankle a couple weeks ago and deca is supposed to help with joints.

I have nolva and clomid on hand.

Originally Posted by GOONBAH

do u use anything for progesterone while using deca and tren together...

have u combined the 2 before?

Never ran deca and tren together, why?

**HawaiianPride.** · 08-31-2010, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by buffteen

Def holding water. I guess the deca is a little high but I thought that it might be beneficial to start out a little high on that dose because I rolled my left ankle a couple weeks ago and deca is supposed to help with joints.

I have nolva and clomid on hand.

For joint alleviation, 900mg is unnecessary any way you look at it. If you can tolerate the sides at those dosages then more power to you. I always stress the saying "always use the LEAST amount that you can get results from".

Are you utilizing any AI's? Dopamine agonists?

**heyyallsup** · 09-02-2010, 07:17 AM

The "up 23 pounds" caught my eye, wow, bit of a shock to the system! Good luck with that!

Are you taking any normal supps along with your cycle? Whey, DAA, Glucosamine/Chondroitin, MSM, creatine, and so on? Or just lots and lots of food and water?

**bdodge2** · 09-02-2010, 07:43 AM

I have always been told not to run tren and deca together as they ar both 19-nor and the stack can lead to some big time progesterone gyno problems as well as the other sides..acne, hair loss etc.

I have run them back to back but not concurrently.

**theboss** · 09-02-2010, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by bdodge2

I have always been told not to run tren and deca together as they ar both 19-nor and the stack can lead to some big time progesterone gyno problems as well as the other sides..acne, hair loss etc.

x 2

let us know when your boobs start leaking.....j/k.

get some bromo bro.

**ironaddict69** · 09-02-2010, 05:32 PM

I had no idea insulin was that powerful, but 50 IU is a very high dose. Makes me wonder what would happen if I ran just 10 IU's or so. Stuff scares me though.

**GOONBAH** · 09-02-2010, 09:35 PM

yeh 50iu is very high... is that all in one dose? post workout?

or divided up throughout the day ?

**Epic Ed** · 09-02-2010, 10:14 PM

The problem with running two 19-nors in the same cycle is the combined effect of them creating side effects. But if you're aware of the potential sides and are prepared to deal with them with ancillaries then it's really no different then running any other combo of AAS. If you run a solid dopamine agonist to combat prolactin there's really no reason not to run deca and tren in the same cycle if you want. Although I'm not sure I'd take such a hefty dose, but feck it -- we're all adults here and we all know our own limitations.