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    EQ only run?

    DO you think one could get contest ready with just EQ in the last 4 weeks?

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    Certainly not. Do some more research on EQ. It needs to be run for a very long cycle to see any gains (14-16 weeks). 4 weeks isn't a lot of time to cut. You could try Anavar, but that's typically a 6-8 week cycle for best results. I don't see you realizing a lot of fat loss in just 4 weeks. With the right diet and lots of cardio you might be able to drop another 8 lbs, but that's going to be about all that can be realized in that time period, without muscle loss.

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    Hmmm it would certainly bring out vascularity and alot of guys do use it for that reason. If thats all your looking for is finishing touches it might work just for alittle hardness and veins is that what your looking for??

    Masteron prop would certainly kick in faster, but I know guys who see vascularity come out with EQ withing a couple wks but they run 800mg or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    Certainly not. Do some more research on EQ. It needs to be run for a very long cycle to see any gains (14-16 weeks). 4 weeks isn't a lot of time to cut. You could try Anavar, but that's typically a 6-8 week cycle for best results. I don't see you realizing a lot of fat loss in just 4 weeks. With the right diet and lots of cardio you might be able to drop another 8 lbs, but that's going to be about all that can be realized in that time period, without muscle loss.


    I think hes just looking for a pre contest drug?? The 14-16 wks deal really dont apply if thats the case for muscle gains maybe but vascularity and hardenss with EQ can be seen much sooner that that

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    No eq wont do a thing, your diet will get you in shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    No eq wont do a thing, your diet will get you in shape.
    What if hes already in shape and is looking for something to make his veins pop? Its pretty common for EQ to be used that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    What if hes already in shape and is looking for something to make his veins pop? Its pretty common for EQ to be used that way.
    What makes you think he is already in shape, he asked if it could get him contest ready so I doubt he is in shape, he didnt mention veins of any kind.

    If someone would want his veins popping i'd advice a bit of masteron/winny/prop and before stage glass of wine

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    What makes you think he is already in shape, he asked if it could get him contest ready so I doubt he is in shape, he didnt mention veins of any kind.

    If someone would want his veins popping i'd advice a bit of masteron/winny/prop and before stage glass of wine
    He said last 4 wks before a contest used as a precontest drug he actually never said he was looking to cut or was out of shape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    He said last 4 wks before a contest used as a precontest drug he actually never said he was looking to cut or was out of shape.
    Thats what he asked below: no sign of veins or anything but to asnwer your question, no i wouldnt advice anyone to use eq 4 wks out even if he did want to increase his rbc's for veins.

    DO you think one could get contest ready with just EQ in the last 4 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Thats what he asked below: no sign of veins or anything but to asnwer your question, no i wouldnt advice anyone to use eq 4 wks out even if he did want to increase his rbc's for veins.

    DO you think one could get contest ready with just EQ in the last 4 weeks?
    No, but it could help if its all hes got

    What I was tryin to get at was to get the op to open up a bit more on the situation. Hes been a member since 04 and talking about contests, I give him the benefit of the doubt that hes got things in check. But everyone came in and said no its useless. Which I dont think it is IF thats what he has. If he would have said should I run mast or EQ last four wks then that would be different.

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    Everything I've read on EQ has said that it is either worthless or only works if run for a very long time. Strength gains reported were minimal, and most likely attributed to diet and training more than the EQ. Endurance can be improved, and IMO this is the only reason why anyone would ever want to take EQ.

    Improvements in vascularity can be made much more easily by either salt loading/depleting or soda loading. The problem is that you need to know how your body responds to those. You also have to accept that for the first week you will look worse than you will ultimately.

    4 weeks out from a contest I'd be more concerned about diet and planning my water cut than trying to make any radical changes. 4 weeks out is really 3 if you are doing things right. You want to be in 100% contest shape 1 week prior to competition. Then you have a week to make minor tweaks if you find you need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    Everything I've read on EQ has said that it is either worthless or only works if run for a very long time. Strength gains reported were minimal, and most likely attributed to diet and training more than the EQ. Endurance can be improved, and IMO this is the only reason why anyone would ever want to take EQ.

    Improvements in vascularity can be made much more easily by either salt loading/depleting or soda loading. The problem is that you need to know how your body responds to those. You also have to accept that for the first week you will look worse than you will ultimately.

    4 weeks out from a contest I'd be more concerned about diet and planning my water cut than trying to make any radical changes. 4 weeks out is really 3 if you are doing things right. You want to be in 100% contest shape 1 week prior to competition. Then you have a week to make minor tweaks if you find you need them.
    TKO do not believe everything you read. Different strokes for different folks kind of a thing. Personally I have used EQ and LOVED it. I would also RECOMMEND it to ANYONE looking to run a 12-14 weeker. Thats not coming from someone who told me, thats personal and accurate.

    Not solo though.. Of course..

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    Straighten out my info then. What was your cycle? What were you results?

    Also, back to the matter at hand, do you think he'd see any benefit in 4 weeks fro just EQ?

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    My comment was in response to the "EQ is worthless" comment. Do you really need me to say anything about 4 weeks of EQ? Why don't you try it before condemning it..

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    NOT worthless. I love EQ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    No, but it could help if its all hes got

    What I was tryin to get at was to get the op to open up a bit more on the situation. Hes been a member since 04 and talking about contests, I give him the benefit of the doubt that hes got things in check. But everyone came in and said no its useless. Which I dont think it is IF thats what he has. If he would have said should I run mast or EQ last four wks then that would be different.
    Hey guys, Gymnerd is right on the money, sorry did't have achance to get on till now again. been running EQ for 14 weeks aready been hoping for my mast, winny, and prop to come in that is why I was wondering about just running the eq. currently on 500mg test C and 750 EQ a week. and yes I am lean 5 percent now upper bod is ready lower coming in slowly. 205 currently at 5'6".

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    Picture?

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    Hang on, clarify that. I'm reading that you have already been on a cycle of EQ for 14 weeks, along with test C for the same length of time, and you want to go another 4 weeks on just the EQ (stretching the EQ part to 18 weeks total). Is that correct?

    Fuzzy, I think we agree that starting EQ and only going 4 weeks is a waste. However, I'd still like to know what cycle you ran and how it worked for you. I'm not bashing or being sarcastic, I would like the knowledge. Not trying to hijack either, so if you want to discuss via PM that's fine with me too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDtS View Post
    Hey guys, Gymnerd is right on the money, sorry did't have achance to get on till now again. been running EQ for 14 weeks aready been hoping for my mast, winny, and prop to come in that is why I was wondering about just running the eq. currently on 500mg test C and 750 EQ a week. and yes I am lean 5 percent now upper bod is ready lower coming in slowly. 205 currently at 5'6".
    As Numb said.. This I got to see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDtS View Post
    Hey guys, Gymnerd is right on the money, sorry did't have achance to get on till now again. been running EQ for 14 weeks aready been hoping for my mast, winny, and prop to come in that is why I was wondering about just running the eq. currently on 500mg test C and 750 EQ a week. and yes I am lean 5 percent now upper bod is ready lower coming in slowly. 205 currently at 5'6".
    If you could post a pic - that would be great. My best friend wil be doing his 1st show and he's 5'7 215lbs currently at 9% BF. I'd like to see what 205 @ 5% looks like on you so I could show him.....

    ~Haz~

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