sustanon 250 / winny help please

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 04:31 AM

Hi my first post peeps.

Ok so I have only done a winny only cycle before which I got the results I was looking for but yes as stated my libido went lower than the word low.

I want to do Sustanon 250 with winstrol oral. My question is would the Sustanon 250 help with the libido problem? I am asking this question because some threads people say they had no problems when other say they did.

Also is there alot of water retention with sustanon ? ie round puffy look?

So im confused if this is a good stack or not. thanks

**j.daddy** · 09-06-2010, 04:35 AM

Age?
Weight?
Height?
Years training?
Cycle experience?

You have to post your stats to get help

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 04:39 AM

sorry
28
77kg
5.10 height
Ive been training for 6 years now and did a 8week cycle of winstrol oral.

**j.daddy** · 09-06-2010, 04:53 AM

What are you trying to accomplish? If your trying to gain this cycle sucks. How much and how often are you planning to inject the sust? But to answer your question, Yes test will help your libido

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 05:02 AM

well i want to put on some size but want to look lean as well (ie hard dry look of winny) . So im not looking to bulk up like a ballon and then diet. Im happy with my frame but want a little more size. Once a week inject, though at this stage im trying to figure out what is better and try and sort the libido problem out. Reason also is the pricing, it works out cheaper for me than test e with my links. thanks

**j.daddy** · 09-06-2010, 05:09 AM

I've run sust with bi-weekly injections of 500mg a week, but your hormone levels bounce around. Sustonon is better to inject eod due to the faster acting esters in the blend. 250mgs a week is kinda low you might want to double that and EAT. You can get big and stay cut if you eat A LOT of clean foods. It still seems like a bad idea. Since your new to the roid game you could get the same results with proper diet and test prop.
GL

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 05:24 AM

can you elaborate on the hormones a bit? i dont think i can get test prop thats the thing. I mean ive done the whole bulking thing before though maintaining that weight is hard for me these days/ u think the sust is a def no no?

**Numb uK** · 09-06-2010, 05:45 AM

I liked Sust, but it took about a month to kick in. It's got some esthers that take awhile depending on your body to kick in. I've heard you can get away with 1 injection a week but your not going to feel much from it. I'd pinn twice a week (500mg/wk). What's your diet like? PCT?

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 06:00 AM

1 month to kick in? really? cant u pin 1 500mg a week , has to be split right? i keep my diet clean year round. Around 2500 cals but if I wanna bulk I add more or for cuttin decrease carbs until im carb depleted then increase daily again. When I did this on winny its very good cause u in anabolic state and dont burn muscle. Plus when you start increasing the carbs again u blow up nicely. but doesn't everyone eat like a bulk diet when on sus?

**Numb uK** · 09-06-2010, 06:06 AM

Indeed I was having between 4000-4500 cals per day. I was also have deca with the sust too. So 2 weeks into the cycle the deca kicked in for me. I really liked the sust but like I said it was awhile before it kicked in. Do you have a problem with Pinning twice a week?

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-06-2010, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by brokenwindow

1 month to kick in? really? cant u pin 1 500mg a week , has to be split right? i keep my diet clean year round. Around 2500 cals but if I wanna bulk I add more or for cuttin decrease carbs until im carb depleted then increase daily again. When I did this on winny its very good cause u in anabolic state and dont burn muscle. Plus when you start increasing the carbs again u blow up nicely. but doesn't everyone eat like a bulk diet when on sus?

Broken I understand that you have done a winny only cycle already. However it is obvious that you are pretty clueless and I say that not to disrespect you but to help you understand you are NOT ready for more AAS. Sust 250 has 250mg per ml but it is not just 1 compound at 250mg, it breaks down like this: testosterone propionate - 30 mg, testosterone phenylpropionate - 60 mg, testosterone isocaproate - 60mg, and testosterone decanoate -100 mg.
Out of those esters some are short and some are long, hence the need to pin more than "1 500mg injection" per week. If this is something you really want you need to do a lot of research. Someone once told me "If it is meant to be, it is up to ME". Hit the books my friend.

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 07:28 AM

thanks guys for the posts, much appreciated. Yea im trying to educate myself by reading alot of posts etc. Though having said this it seems to me to be pretty much down to user experience. so many different threads say different things. Ie you read profiles of different gear though peoples experiences say something else. So just kinda confused.

Say if I was to do another winstrol cycle, is there anything else other than pining to help with the libido problem?

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-06-2010, 07:37 AM

winny only? Thats like going from bad to worse..

**brokenwindow** · 09-06-2010, 07:57 AM

ok what would u recommend for me to take? my goal though is to generally stay lean year round. I was thinking test e as they say its better for beginner though the price is substantially higher than sustanon 250 around here. Also sustanon stays longer in your body which is better right?

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-06-2010, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by brokenwindow

ok what would u recommend for me to take? my goal though is to generally stay lean year round. I was thinking test e as they say its better for beginner though the price is substantially higher than sustanon 250 around here. Also sustanon stays longer in your body which is better right?

Thats not how it works and I would not be doing you ANY favors by spoon feeding you ideas. My best suggestion to you is to go out, figure out what you think would be best for you and your goals, put it together and post it. We/I would be more than happy to critique it and tell you what needs to be addressed if anything.