Test, Tren A or E, & Winny Cycle Help

[Relax007]

I'm looking for a lean bulk. I just finished up my cycle of test e and dbol. Now, I'm planning my next cycle. I'm thinking of running a tren cycle, and I need some help.
1. Do both Trens give you the tren cough?
2. Which tren is recommended? I'm thinking Tren Enth, so it would be a less frequent injection
3. How long should tren be run for?
4. What test would be recommended with tren?
5. Finish up with 6 weeks of winny?
6. Since I don't have much experience with tren, what would be proper PCT for cycle like this?

Once I have some of these questions I can plan a proper cycle. Unless someone wants a recommend a cycle and PCT?

[D7M]

Stats and cycle experience?

I'd answer those questions, but you might want to start by searching for other people's tren cycles, reading some threads, and getting some info that way first....

[Relax007]

I've tried, but I guess it depends on what tren I choose to use.
Stats:
31 yrs. old
6'2" 195 lbs.
This will be my 4th cycle.

[D7M]

You should be looking into tren A, imo.

That way when the sides hit, or if you want to discontinue it, it will clear your system much quicker than tren E

[Relax007]

Are you referring to the cough or the estrogen sides? Would adex be sufficient?

[D7M]

Any of the sides. Some guys get them worse than others.

Adex should be fine.

You'll always want to research dopamine agonists.

[Relax007]

What compound would be a dopamine agonists and how does it effect you?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

With all due respect Relax you are not ready for tren.

[Relax007]

What am I ready for FuzzyPeaches?

[Relax007]

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[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Relax I am in no way taking a shot at you, so please do not get all defensive. You are considering tren yet you "appear" to be at a loss when it comes to things you have to know when taking tren. For example, dopamine agonists and how they will affect your prolactin if your levels rise to high.

If you want to know what I think you are ready for, it is more research.

[Room4More]

you can easily get lean bulk with a test only cycle. test e for 12 weeks. 250mg twice a week. bang.

[Relax007]

I was not being defensive, and I do appreciate your feedback. Yes, I agree that I need to do some research, which is why I asked the questions I did. I need to get feedback, so I can make a decision on what I'm going to try, while learning more about the compounds. As for Room4More, I just got off a test e cycle of 500mg/week. Your cycle wouldn't work for me.

[MrGreen]

These sides vary from person to person. I was a bit worried about a few prior to taking tren just from what I had read. I am on week 5 of my test tren cycle and only sides I have found is the sleep! LOL I cant sleep for shit and I often wake up in a sweat before falling back to sleep.

I am taking EOD just so my levels are a bit more stable and dont spike once a week.
250 mg test E
100 mg tren E

[Relax007]

These sides vary from person to person. I was a bit worried about a few prior to taking tren just from what I had read. I am on week 5 of my test tren cycle and only sides I have found is the sleep! LOL I cant sleep for shit and I often wake up in a sweat before falling back to sleep.

I am taking EOD just so my levels are a bit more stable and dont spike once a week.
250 mg test E
100 mg tren E

Aren't you only supposed to take them twice a week? If you are taking both of those at those amounts you are taking about 1000mg of test e a week and 4mg of tren e!! That's a lot!!

[MrGreen]

No you have it wrong.

EOD every other day

Some weeks its 4 pins a week some its 3 a week sometimes its 4.

875 mg test a week
350 mg tren a week.

The reason for taking them EOD is to have more steady levels rather then a spike. I cant remember who it was or where but there is a post on here of the differences between ed vs eod vs e3d ect...ect..

No you dont need to take it EOD and E3D would be fine this is just my personal preference. My doses are not intended for you to use its just an example only. I am sure there are several vets in here that can also back me up on the steady levels of pinning more often vs pinning larger amounts once or twice a week.

[Relax007]

I'm just surprised that you are taking such a big dosage per week.

[Relax007]

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[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

No you have it wrong.

EOD every other day

Some weeks its 4 pins a week some its 3 a week sometimes its 4.

875 mg test a week
350 mg tren a week.

The reason for taking them EOD is to have more steady levels rather then a spike. I cant remember who it was or where but there is a post on here of the differences between ed vs eod vs e3d ect...ect..

No you dont need to take it EOD and E3D would be fine this is just my personal preference. My doses are not intended for you to use its just an example only. I am sure there are several vets in here that can also back me up on the steady levels of pinning more often vs pinning larger amounts once or twice a week.

With the esters that you are taking eod is not necessary. E3d would be more than sufficient.

*Edit - But with the amount you are using eod is req'd. Otherwise you would need to pin more than once e3d.

[Relax007]

So back to the OP....

[Relax007]

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[Relax007]

Any help here?

[Relax007]

any help here?

[MrGreen]

What is it you want to know?


Tren 200-400mg a week

Cough? not everyone gets it you may or may not.

Clean bulk? Just bulk then after cut.

You can run any test with tren doesnt matter. 500mg of test minimum IMO.

PCT? Your typical PCT is fine you can even run some HCG if its on hand. May want to up the doses of clomid and novl a little bit as tren will shut you down.

[Relax007]

I would like to know:
How long should tren be run for?
Finish up with 6 weeks of winny and what doseage?
What would be a good cycle with test e, tren e, and winny?

[_ripp3d_]

Whats your BF%?

[Relax007]

Whats your BF%?

My bf is 10%

[Relax007]

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[Relax007]

What do you have to do to get some help around here?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Relax, life is not gift wrapped and served on a silver plate. We have answered all of your questions and the ones you do not have do a F'n search for them. These questions and answers are all over this forum.

With all that aside you are nowhere ready for a cycle, especially a cycle with compounds you have no idea on how to run. I'm not attacking you here so please do not let your ego get all bruised but for real.. Help yourself..

[Relax007]

I've tried searching, but if you type in tren or test the search is overloaded. Just asking for a little help. Maybe you could provide me some a sample cycle with these compounds. Also, if all my questions were answered I wouldn't still be asking them. i.e. How long should tren be run for?
Finish up with 6 weeks of winny and what doseage?
What would be a good cycle with test e, tren e, and winny?

[Relax007]

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[gonzo6183]

188 posts, 150 of them "Bump"

Read and learn, the other guys are right you are not ready for tren. Its not the type of compound that you will have a cycle spood fed to you problem free, not that any should be but even more so when it comes to tren.