How does this burst cycle look?

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This will be my first burst cycle. I am very new to bursts so I am receptive to criticism.

-----Stats-----
3+ years dedicated training (4-5 days/week)
28 y/o
5'11"
200 lbs.
~11% BF (never tested, just quoted by members)

-----History-----
Cycle 1:
Test E - 300 mg (8 weeks)
Test E - 500 mg (4 weeks)
Gained 21lb...kept about 18lb after pct but ultimately left me with about 15lb

Cycle 2:
Test P - 525 mg (8 weeks)
Tbol - 60mg/day (8 weeks)
Gained 15lb...kept about 10lb, just finished pct end of August

-----Burst Cycle-----
4 weeks
Test P - 600mg
Primo - 600mg
Anavar - 80mg/day
Tbol - 80mg/day

-----PCT-----
4 weeks
Fareston
Aromasin
Letro on hand (got gyno from 2nd cycle )
(http://forums.steroid.com/showpost.p...08&postcount=9)
Have to do more research for doses...trying to get the cycle straight first

-----Few other things-----
-Plan to start Dec. 1
-A vet gave me the advise to run ~1200mg of test for a burst
-Not sure if that's too much orals but will be running Milk Thistle no matter what
-I have hairloss issues so I have to have at most those compounds listed above
-I have not done a ton of research on Primo, just that it's pretty easy on the hairline...I've heard it needs to be run at high doses to be effective, just not sure where that is
-Will also run dutasteride at 2.5mg/day (this is year round)

-----Goals-----
Not sure what to expect from a burst...maybe 15 lean lbs. That might be a bit much to expect in 4 weeks...not sure. Gaining some fat isn't an issue but I don't think I will. I have a high metabolism and test usually trims me right up no matter what I eat.

Let me know what you think...I'm mostly concerned with the Primo dose and the high level of orals.

[D7M]

Pick an oral. Either tbol or var.

Priming is the most important part of a burst cycle, and I didn't see any mention of that in your post.

I'll dig up Marcus' thread on priming.

[D7M]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=345944

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=231569

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http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=345944

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=231569

Cool, yea I've read both of those. That's what gave me the idea. Didn't think details on priming were needed but much appreciated. Thanks

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Pick an oral. Either tbol or var.

Priming is the most important part of a burst cycle, and I didn't see any mention of that in your post.

I'll dig up Marcus' thread on priming.

OK, would be Var. Are you saying Var @ 80mg or Var @ 160mg?

[D7M]

Var at 80.

If you prime correctly you don't need to go crazy with high doses...at least in my experience.

That's why I said the prime is way more important than just cycling for 4 weeks with a ton of anabolics.

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Var at 80.

If you prime correctly you don't need to go crazy with high doses...at least in my experience.

That's why I said the prime is way more important than just cycling for 4 weeks with a ton of anabolics.

Got it...thanks D7M!

[marcus300]

D7M is correct, priming will create the right environment for muscle tissue to grow straight from the start of the cycle and is very important to short cycling, the muscle receptors will get very excitable and once you start flooding your system with and androgens and food you will start seeing increases in muscle mass. I would go with 6-8 weeks priming and listen to the body daily and adjust accordingly.

IMHO I would drop the primo, reason being you have no idea how you react to it and you dont know if that dose will do anything for you, its one of those compounds you need to experiment with I didn't care much for it until I went over 1g then I started to see nice small lean gains,

I do think you could knock the test up to 700-750mg per wk, leave the primo out of it and run either tbol or var, from your history I would pick tbol that's just because you have used it before and you know how you react.You seem to still be making good gains with your cycles so test and an oral should be fine IMHO.

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D7M is correct, priming will create the right environment for muscle tissue to grow straight from the start of the cycle and is very important to short cycling, the muscle receptors will get very excitable and once you start flooding your system with and androgens and food you will start seeing increases in muscle mass. I would go with 6-8 weeks priming and listen to the body daily and adjust accordingly.

IMHO I would drop the primo, reason being you have no idea how you react to it and you dont know if that dose will do anything for you, its one of those compounds you need to experiment with I didn't care much for it until I went over 1g then I started to see nice small lean gains,

I do think you could knock the test up to 700-750mg per wk, leave the primo out of it and run either tbol or var, from your history I would pick tbol that's just because you have used it before and you know how you react.You seem to still be making good gains with your cycles so test and an oral should be fine IMHO.

Thanks for taking the time to write that. Looks like good advise.

[marcus300]

Thanks for taking the time to write that. Looks like good advise.

Make sure you prime correctly and this will set you up nicely for the short burst cycle, once you start the cycle you will also need to change your training to very intense training, best of luck