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09-07-2010, 07:24 PM #1Junior Member
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First Pin Cycle
Ok, its finally time and I am excited =]
First off:
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6'0
220#
13%
second time using steroids (First Cycle was Anavar )....First with INJECTING steroids
Been searching all about PCT (Plan below)
been training for 9 years; hard for 5.
Diet has been critiqued here: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=433244
I am planning on doing the newbie cycle with an Anavar twist at the end.
Plan:
1-12 Test E 500mg/week
1-12 500iu/week HCG (final 10-14 days leading to PCT as the ester clears, use 250ius-500ius/ED)
1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
6-12 Anavar 80mg/day
1-12 Finasteride 1mg Anti-hair loss*(See below)
PCT: (2wks after last injection)
Clomid 70/35/35/35
Torem 120/60/60/60
On hand:
Letro
Also taking:
Whey & Casein Protein
BCAA
Creatine
Waximaize
Liv-52
Milk Thistle
Policosanol
CoQ 10
Flaxd Seed
Taurine
CLA
ZMA
*Finasteride that is a specific inhibitor of 5a-reductase. Proscar is the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone into DHT (dihydrotestosterone). Proscar can efficiently reduce the serum concentration of DHT, therefore Proscar minimizes the unwanted androgenic effects that result from its presence. Propecia is the same drug but the tablet contains only 115 of the Proscar dosage. Scientists have long believed that DHT was the main culprit in many cases of male hair loss (along with genetic factors), so there was little doubt after the release of Proscar that Finasteride would eventually be used for this purpose.
Questions:
Has anyone ever used Finasteride?
Should I just keep Letro on hand in case of Gyno or use it?
Think Vit B & E injections are necessary?
Pinning: I was planning on rotating from Glutes, Delts, & Pecs... Think I should?
I was thinking 18g draw and 23g pin... suggestions?
Ok there it is. Tell me what you think. =]
AM
PS Thanks BJJ and Swifto for the input on the cycle!Last edited by ArmyMan04; 09-07-2010 at 07:26 PM. Reason: forgot the thanks!
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09-07-2010, 08:15 PM #2
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09-07-2010, 08:21 PM #3
I commend you for doing your homework, truly.
KP has this on lock.
Only thing I would add is substitute Letro for Dex or Exe. Letro as a last resort.
Ancillaries look good.
Be sure to keep a close eye on your BP and don't neglect BW prior and post-PCT.
Good luck.
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09-07-2010, 08:27 PM #4
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09-08-2010, 04:14 AM #5Junior Member
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Thanks to both. Dex is Armidex but what is Exe? And any preference with explanation why? I like to learn to fish rather than gien a fish =]
KP thanks for taking the time. =] Ill take your suggestion and drop dbol dose down. And ill just keep the sites glutes and delts. and look at 21g and 25g. What doses do you recommend for vit E & B? Also I am planning on pinning Mon Morn and Thur Night and then with HCG Tues Morn and Fri Night...
Has anyone ever used Finasteride?
Any other suggestions are welcome. and Thanks!
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09-08-2010, 04:15 AM #6Junior Member
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Oh and I love Anavar , its way expensive but I had great results with it my first time. So im playing with it to see how it does at the end of this cycle.
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bump
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09-08-2010, 03:03 PM #8
Exemestane (Aromasin ). An AI similar to Arimidex . I personally like Exe over any AI. Personally think it's more effective. Rids up to 85% of Estro while Dex is around 50% if my memory serves me right. Letro rids up to 98% or so, causes cramps, limp dick and suppress appetite. Only use it if your Gyno symptoms are sevre or looking to try a reversal protocol.
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09-08-2010, 03:15 PM #9
x2, I think Aromasin is the best AI.
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09-08-2010, 03:16 PM #10Junior Member
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Thanks I will get Aromasin . = ]
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09-08-2010, 03:19 PM #11
It is not the cheapest but well worth the few xtra $$$ thats for sure.
*Edit - Plus if you get AR's it taste really f'n good!Last edited by FuzzyPeaches o.O; 09-08-2010 at 03:30 PM.
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09-08-2010, 03:50 PM #17
IMO when it comes to that it is not like gyno where it can be reversed. Prevention IS the name of THAT game.
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I believe you should go with Torem and Nolva/Tamox, or Chlomid and Nolva, not Tor and Chlomid.
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From the studies I have seen, Nolva is best for raising T levels. I was also told from multiple sources, that as the second SERM you should choose TOR or Chlomid. I am new to the game, but I have talked to many guys in the gym and on various forums, and no one had anything negative really to say about Tor, but some guys complained about Chlomid's sides.
I finished a Torem Nolva PCT 2 weeks ago, by the way, after my 1st cycle, and it was great.
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Also what type of syringe is best? ARR sells the 3cc/ml one would that one be ok? Or should i get another?
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09-08-2010, 04:43 PM #23
3cc syringe is good.
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09-08-2010, 04:45 PM #24
Since you are running test e I would pin 2x a week and the 3cc syringe would be fine. Just get a pin ranging from 22-25g, the lower the # the bigger the pin. Also, depending on where you pin you will need 1" or 1.5". (all in case you did not know)
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