newbie question

**ruggedforyou** · 09-09-2010, 06:08 PM

hey, i just bought my first cycle of deca and winny!! could you please tell me tha advised dosages and can they both be injected the same day?? i understand winny is a daily thing, how much??? i'am looking to bulk up and cut fat! thank's alot

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-09-2010, 06:09 PM

Bad idea. You need to research..

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-09-2010, 06:10 PM

Welcome, list your stats..

age
weight
height
bf
training experience
goals with this cycle
planned pct

***D7M*** · 09-09-2010, 06:11 PM

Very poor cycle.

Age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?
daily diet?

^^let's start there and see if we could help you

**Dr Pepper** · 09-09-2010, 06:13 PM

Bad idea... Start with your stats?

**ruggedforyou** · 09-09-2010, 06:13 PM

age 36,weight 195,height 6 feet ,training about 1 year consistantly, ang i eat clean. thank's

**Dr Pepper** · 09-09-2010, 06:16 PM

What does your diet look like?

What is your bf%?

Deca and winny are not advised for a first cycle. Just stick to a single ester test. Save the rest for down the track...

**ruggedforyou** · 09-09-2010, 06:25 PM

iam very interested in using deca can you maybe suggest a different fat burner that goes well with deca in the first cycle? as for body fat % iam really not too sure! as for my diet it's about 3000 cals very clean no shit food except on cheat day's once evry two week's.

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-09-2010, 06:27 PM

1 year is no where near enough time to accomplish your goals naturally. You need to be more consistent with your training. Consistency is key. We'd all be on steroids if this were not the case.

**ruggedforyou** · 09-09-2010, 06:34 PM

soo no suggestion's on that fat burner i already have my deca but can switch the burner as i don't have yet! i would really love any suggestion's u guy's have as i'am trying to be safe!! i trained year's ago but just started back 1 year ago and have seen nice gain's but just looking for something else.

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-09-2010, 06:37 PM

Fat burners don't "burn" fat.

There have already been suggestions. Be more consistent with your training, and focus more on your diet.

Food is the sole determiner of decreasing adipose tissue.

The nutrition section awaits you..

**Dr Pepper** · 09-09-2010, 06:59 PM

Mate the key to truely burning fat is diet! Iv just released this myself. Once u rely understand how dieting you can achieve great things. You don't need steroids to lose weight. Iv been dieting for a while now to bulk but just this week started to diet to cut. Iv lost 1.5kg in me first week just from dieting. So it is possible!

**scotimus** · 09-09-2010, 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by ruggedforyou

soo no suggestion's on that fat burner i already have my deca but can switch the burner as i don't have yet! i would really love any suggestion's u guy's have as i'am trying to be safe!! i trained year's ago but just started back 1 year ago and have seen nice gain's but just looking for something else.

dude dont do the deca by itself or with a "fat burner". if youre gonna do deca by itself you may as well put your girlfriend on a bus and ship her up to me so she can be satisfied for the next couple months because you wont be able to do it

you need to do more research man.