Finished 5 month cycle of test prop, tbol and winny. need help with pct pls!

[phat_matt85]

Stats

25 yrs old
215 lbs
5'10"
fb- 10%

Im about to finish crazy cycle for me at least. I did 10 weeks of tbol and added winny for 6 wks and ran Test prop.
I have HCG and arimidex . The guy i get my goodies from says thats the best thing i can do for pct is to run them both.

What do u guys thinK?

[AlphaGenetics]

Run tamox and clomid for pct, hcg should be run on cycle to keep the boys working.

[AlphaGenetics]

Can you post the cycle you did in more detail. How long did you run prop?

[ScotchGuard02]

You really need to read up on the PCT forum. There's a lot of good info there.

[phat_matt85]

This is what i did...my original plan was just to do tbol at 50-70mgs everyday for 10 weeks. Then i added winny with test prop.

Tbol 1-10 weeks 60mgs ed
Winny added week 8-12 at 50 mgs ed
Test prop added week 8-22 at 100mgs eod

[panntastic]

Your going to need a strong pct my friend your going to be shut down hard why did you go for so long in the first place?

[scotty51312]

^^^^X2 you're gonna need at a 5 or 6 week high dose PCT maybe something like nolva 50/50/40/30/20/20 clomid 100/100/100/50/50/50 then go have bloodwork done to see if your natural test is back up

[40plusnewbie]

I'm a total novice so this is a question, NOT advice. But by him being shut down so long and not running HCG during his cycle might it not be beneficial in him running it as part of his pct along with whatever serms he's gonna run?

[scotty51312]

i'll let one of the PCT guru's like swifto or HP take that one.

[Solomon]

14 weeks of prop? ouch.

[gym_junki]

start hcg now while ur on prob. 500iu every three days for three weeks with a low dose of prop. ur testies should start to kick in that three weeks, cut out the hcg and the prop and start pct 3days after ur last prop shot by three days
clomid 100 100 50 50 50
nolva 100 50 50 25 25
youl need a 5 week pct. keep arimidex on u but i dont think u will need it. keep us updated with ur recovery

[phat_matt85]

I will def keep u guys updated.

This dude has been a pro bodybuilder for 15 yrs and he swears by hcg and arimidex for pct, he said that thats all he has ever ran and he had no prob with it. i will still get some clomid and nolv i just hope it comes in time

[phat_matt85]

So far i had no prob with sex drive what so ever and i forgot to mention that i dropped prop to half a cc 3 weeks ago so im on 50mg eod.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

I'm a total novice so this is a question, NOT advice. But by him being shut down so long and not running HCG during his cycle might it not be beneficial in him running it as part of his pct along with whatever serms he's gonna run?

That is correct HCG is not a good choice for pct and adex is NOT for pct either. Whoever is giving you advice clearly is not doing you any favors!

10 weeks of Tbol??

Prior to this cycle what cycle experience did you have?

[Stay Solid]

I will def keep u guys updated.

This dude has been a pro bodybuilder for 15 yrs and he swears by hcg and arimidex for pct, he said that thats all he has ever ran and he had no prob with it. i will still get some clomid and nolv i just hope it comes in time

I Hear Things Like This Often, Just because He's Big and might be a body builder doesnt mean he's an expert. And Regaurdless What works for him isn't always whats going to work for you. Everyones Different my friend, take these veterans advice.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

I will def keep u guys updated.

This dude has been a pro bodybuilder for 15 yrs and he swears by hcg and arimidex for pct, he said that thats all he has ever ran and he had no prob with it. i will still get some clomid and nolv i just hope it comes in time

I Hear Things Like This Often, Just because He's Big and might be a body builder doesnt mean he's an expert. And Regaurdless What works for him isn't always whats going to work for you. Everyones Different my friend, take these veterans advice.

^x2. Anyone who takes hcg for their pct is clueless. That just goes to show they have no clue about what is happening inside their own body and why. Just like you said SS people tend to believe what these people say just because they are big, unfortunately big and intelligent do not always go hand in hand.

[hankdiesel]

This is what i did...my original plan was just to do tbol at 50-70mgs everyday for 10 weeks. Then i added winny with test prop.

Tbol 1-10 weeks 60mgs ed
Winny added week 8-12 at 50 mgs ed
Test prop added week 8-22 at 100mgs eod

You're going to have a hard time recovering from this cycle. This is why it's usually best to stick to the original plan.

[D7M]

^x2. Anyone who takes hcg for their pct is clueless. That just goes to show they have no clue about what is happening inside their own body and why. Just like you said SS people tend to believe what these people say just because they are big, unfortunately big and intelligent do not always go hand in hand.

I don't know about that.

I think it's BEST used on cycle, but could have it's place in PCT as well

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Ok, clueless was a bit strong, but if you knew how hcg worked you would know the best time is prior to pct.

[Stay Solid]

^x2. Anyone who takes hcg for their pct is clueless. That just goes to show they have no clue about what is happening inside their own body and why. Just like you said SS people tend to believe what these people say just because they are big, unfortunately big and intelligent do not always go hand in hand.

^^ I agree