First post.... Noobie

[felix117]

whats up guys this is my first post and im very new to all of these things... i have been on clen for a little while now not stacking anything just clen and i have had good results. i have been using it like a weight loss pill but obviuosly working out everyday very hard... im in the process now of taking a month break because i will be starting my first stack of winni and clen as a cutting cycle... i have several questions..... 1- how much winni should i take mg? ml? daily? weekly?.... 2- how much clen should i take using winnie? 3- would i need to do a pct after using these? my goal is to loose weight i have an excellent eating habit i always keep my diet on check and workout daily... i use to be 30lbs heavier about 3 months ago and with the help of clen i have maintained myself at 200 but i want to loose more.. (which is why im doing this stack) any suggestions or pointing me to the right direction?

[D7M]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Welcome Felix. That is a HORRIBLE plan you have. You need to slow down and do some research.

[felix117]

why horrible...i have been reading literally everything on this site and actually my friend that is a bodybuilder is the one that recommended this stack for me to loose weight... please explain why is it horrible? im very new to this and i have been reading the articles on the main page of winni clen ...

[HawaiianPride.]

age?
height?
weight?
body fat?
years training?

^^^^^

Welcome

[felix117]

age22... weight currently 200... height 5'9... bodyfat dont really know but im chubby,fat, size 36 waist if that helps lol, training exp since i was in highschool i know how to workout if thats what ur asking but now serious working out for 5 months

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

why horrible...i have been reading literally everything on this site and actually my friend that is a bodybuilder is the one that recommended this stack for me to loose weight... please explain why is it horrible? im very new to this and i have been reading the articles on the main page of winni clen...

Well felix if you have to ask why then you are clearly not ready for any type of cycle. I am just trying to help so do not take this as me taking a shot at you. Oh, and your "buddy" who recommended this also appears to not be in the know either so I would be careful when taking his advice.

Just to put this in a very simple context winny, like most steroids , will suppress your natural hormone levels. Maybe not as bad as others but none the less you will be shut down which will lead to sexual failure.

Plus orals are strongly advised to NOT be a person's 1st aas due to toxicity etc.

Do yourself a HUGE favor and research!

[felix117]

oh no i wasnt taking it like a shot or anything... if anything i appreciate everybodys help from this forum... but anyways, yes i do know of the shutting down that winstrol causes.. thats why i was asking how long i should run it for and what is an excelent pct... from my understang the clen and winstrol stack is best for cutting... if wrong please correct and direct the right direction... remember my goal is to loose weight

[D7M]

Actually, winny won't directly burn fat.

It's best used under 10% body fat to harden up, as it will purge and sub-q water.

It's really one of those bro-science, internet myths that winny will cut you.

Diet and cardio will get you lean.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Felix the overall consensus of this board is that 22 is too young to run aas. The best thing for you to do is focus on your diet for the next couple of years, that alone will shred you up and put you in a perfect place to consider aas from a safer perspective.

[Stay Solid]

Actually, winny won't directly burn fat.

It's best used under 10% body fat to harden up, as it will purge and sub-q water.

It's really one of those bro-science, internet myths that winny will cut you.

Diet and cardio will get you lean.

^^^ Well Said. Plus Your friend might be a bodybuilder but that doesnt mean he's an expert. Go to the diet section and get a good plan and stick to a good training schedule and you will get results. Set Smaller Goals at first and Work to achieve them.

[BOBfromfightclub]

Plus orals are strongly advised to NOT be a person's 1st aas due to toxicity etc.

Orals shouldn't be a first cycle?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Orals shouldn't be a first cycle?

As a whole it is frowned upon..

[BOBfromfightclub]

ok that makes more sense.

I was like its bad for every one liver...

[felix117]

you think 22 is still to young? well my "bodybuilder" friend is opposite of me he was super skinny and then used stuff to get big. he use to weigh like 135 140 and now he does competitions and stuff like that. i dont want to get to that point i weigh 200 and my frame is built all i want to do is go down to 170 maybe even 160... so im leaning more towards what you guys are saying but for knowledge purpose what can i do for pct after using winstrol and clen ?... and what dosage should i take for winstrol... remember while taking clen...

[PistolStarta]

am I the only person on here not friends with a bodybuilder?

[CFforged]

am I the only person on here not friends with a bodybuilder?

I'm not either. And it's probably a good thing, otherwise I would have done some dumb sh*t in my youth like I've been reading about every day since coming here.

So glad I found this place

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Felix for knowledge purposes your pct, which stands for Pre Cycle Therapy, is please do some research before you cause serious harm to yourself.

I'm surprised your "bodybuilder" friend has not told you, his advice thus far has been super sound!

[MBMETC]

am I the only person on here not friends with a bodybuilder?

I like

It's like when you bring your car to the mechanic and proceed to tell him your friend is a mechanic and he said...classic

[felix117]

i could have sworn it was for "post cycle therapy " thats what i read in another website. which is why i asked the question in that form. actually after i read it i googled it just to make sure and in my google search the same answer came out..

[felix117]

yep pct post cycle therapy just read it on google... so back to my question can someone please answer??

[themoreyouknow]

why not...use a proper diet and cardio to reduce your body fat instead of pumping drugs into yourself.

[felix117]

its not that i dont want to diet i am dieting.. i have kept my diet on point for about 5 months now and i have lost 30lbs... thing is i had a major surgery done about 3 years ago that i now fully recovered and allowed me to start training. im stuck at 200 and i just want to go down to 165 to 160 around that. using winstrol and clen for a short period of time... i know people that have done this and have lost weight like crazy. my only questions are up there^^^ which no one has seemed to answer.

[felix117]

Felix for knowledge purposes your pct, which stands for Pre Cycle Therapy, is please do some research before you cause serious harm to yourself.

I'm surprised your "bodybuilder" friend has not told you, his advice thus far has been super sound!

what do u mean by super sound??