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    1st cycle.. Just trying to get prepared

    Ok this is what I have

    2 vial of Test cypionate 250mg/ml
    1 vial of Deca 300mg/ml

    I am 31 yrs old weigh 212 and 15% Bf.

    I have a couple questions. 1. What dosages do yall recommend? 2. With this stack should I be taking anything else thru the duration or just start the pct afterward? It will be a month or so before I start I just want to have everything ready and planned out before I do....I used to work out religiously when I was in the Army, was outta the game for a few yrs. Started hittin the gym again about 4 months ago Just lookin for some advice for some decent gains. Thanks in advance.

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    4 months back to the gym,what's the hurry to hit the juice. Let's tale a look at a sample food day for you as it will be important pert of your gains.
    What is your
    Planned pct

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    No hurry at all, just had the opportunity to pick it up and did.... As far as Pct Im reading through the forums right now, My supplier suggested nolvadex but was kinda vague sounding on his knowledge on it... theres alot of back and forths on the pcts.. I just want to do this the safest way possible.. Alot of my friends hopped on gear right out of high school and theyre payin for it now.. As far as food goes I agree.. Without a solid diet you arent gonna get phenominal gains.. Ill post up the diet that I have been following when I get off work and see what yall think.

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    Not gonna advise you other than this. 1 vial of deca is not enough, plus in a first cycle most people recommend just test only. Deca has to be run for quite a while and you don't have enough to get much from it. Save the deca. y

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    With what you have the best cycle would be test only @ 500/week. Plus if you have only been back in action for 4 months you are far from cycle ready and that will not be up in one month. So you are 212 @ 15% bf, how tall and what do you have planned for your pct? What are your macros looking like right now, also are you going to get in case you start to get some sides & if you do run the deca , which I seriously hope you do not, what about the 19nor sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LouHulk View Post
    Not gonna advise you other than this. 1 vial of deca is not enough, plus in a first cycle most people recommend just test only. Deca has to be run for quite a while and you don't have enough to get much from it. Save the deca. y
    Disagree I bottle of deca300 would be fine for a first time use 300 mg for 10 weeks although not advisable

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    Disagree I bottle of deca300 would be fine for a first time use 300 mg for 10 weeks although not advisable
    Then what is advisable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester1040 View Post
    Then what is advisable?
    I agree with the above.

    4 months back in the gym is not nearly enough time to start jumping on AAS.

    Give it some time, rebuild those muscles, and in the meantime spend some time on here researching about cycles (start with test only), PCTs (we have an entire PCT forum), Ancillaries (AI, and way to prevent and treat Estrogen Related Side Effects).

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    First cycle test only.. Not advisable to run deca first cycle is what i was saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    Disagree I bottle of deca300 would be fine for a first time use 300 mg for 10 weeks although not advisable
    No its not... This board and its vets advise a Test ONLY cycle for first timers. This is to see how you react to the most basic AAS and see what sides you get from each compound first. Deca is definatly not reccomended for a first timer.

    OP - You have only been back in the gym for 4 months, you are risking getting injured if you hop on the juice now. Like somebody else said lets see an average day of food for you, list portion size and macros please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    First cycle test only.. Not advisable to run deca first cycle is what i was saying
    Oh Ok I understand now lol Thanks

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    Im not in any hurry to use it, and I appreciate evryones comments and help.. Gimme a few and I will post up a days food intake...

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    Quote Originally Posted by sector View Post
    no its not... This board and its vets advise a test only cycle for first timers. This is to see how you react to the most basic aas and see what sides you get from each compound first. Deca is definatly not reccomended for a first timer.

    Op - you have only been back in the gym for 4 months, you are risking getting injured if you hop on the juice now. Like somebody else said lets see an average day of food for you, list portion size and macros please.
    first time use, if it was a second cycle after a test only cycle .
    Im picking up my ball and going home...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    first time use, if it was a second cycle after a test only cycle .
    Im picking up my ball and going home...lol
    That last line had me laughing.

    I get what you meant though.

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    Here is the diet plan that I am currently trying.. I switch out on the canned tuna sometimes with canned chicken or turkey just to break it up a little.. And I work a swing shift from nights to days so the times arent always the same but i do it in the same order wether it be am or pm..


    7:45 250 ml of egg whites
    2 small tortillas, mushrooms, fat free cheese & salsa
    1 English muffin with no sugar added jam & peanut butter
    15 gm of whey protein
    25 gm of oatmeal

    10:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
    15 ml of flax seed oil

    12:45 8 eggs & green onion & light mayo (makes an egg salad)
    3 pieces of whole-wheat bread w/ ham
    1 banana
    15 gm of whey protein
    1 yogurt

    3:15 1 1/2 can of tuna
    15 ml of flax seed oil

    5:15 120 gm of steak
    20 gm of whey protein
    Mustard
    50 gm of carrots
    5 ml of flax seed oil

    1 HOUR TRAINING START 6:00PM to 7:00PM

    7:15 60 gm of whey
    5 rice cakes (caramel flavored)
    1 apple
    2.5 ml of flaxseed oil

    9:30 125 gm of cottage cheese
    15 gm of whey protein
    1 no sugar added fat free yogurt

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    first time use, if it was a second cycle after a test only cycle .
    Im picking up my ball and going home...lol
    Im lost!????

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    Look drop the deca and the cycle looks fine
    do you research on pct, then post your pct plan for feedback
    post your diet in diet forum also for critique
    you still have more research to do before you cycle.
    Gather all the info you can then come back and post your cycle and people will advise you from there.
    Good luck

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    Deca is dropped! As far as Pct I am still reading.. I just read an in depth post that had this pct in it
    Week Nolvadex HCG Aromasin Vitamin E
    1 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    2 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    3 20mgs/day 500iu/day 20-25mgs/day 1000iu/day
    4 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    5 20mgs/day 20-25mgs/day
    6 20mgs/day

    Thoughts? Im still reading every chance I get on here.. Its an abundance of info.. Just wanting to do this safely as possible when I do actually do it. Thanks for all the help

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    Almost forgot... The diet forum is where I actually got the diet from a couple months ago.. I read his post and liked what people were saying about it.. Gotta start looking for a new one though.. something to alternate with..lol

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    GOOD KEEP READING

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    I've seen that exact diet somewhere else. How long have you been following it?

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    sorry

    Quote Originally Posted by scotty51312 View Post
    I've seen that exact diet somewhere else. How long have you been following it?


    sorry but i've seen that exact diet also....

    My suggestion here,

    Just think about your health before you take any gear.....

    Deca for a first timer will not be a smart move at all.....


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    I got the diet off of this forum..Thats probably why yall have seen it.. its a sticky in the diets section. I have decided against using the deca i swear! The more I read about the test cycle though people are recommending using the HCG during the cycle rather than in the pct. What do yall think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    First cycle test only.. Not advisable to run deca first cycle is what i was saying
    Agreed keep it simple see how your body handles test first man,keep it simple.

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    I googled hcg and alot of diet programs popped up. Is this the hcg that they are referring to in the pct regimin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jester1040 View Post
    I googled hcg and alot of diet programs popped up. Is this the hcg that they are referring to in the pct regimin?
    Yes it is the same BUT the HCG used in the Hcg diet protocols is a variation of the HCG form used for cycles, and in a much smaller dose.

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    oh ok, Thanks for the clarification...

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