prohormones?

**nastyman1212** · 09-10-2010, 11:41 AM

I was wondering does any one no if theres any new prohormones out there sence the ban in early 2010 if I have that right..............if so are they any good and whats diffrence in the new and the old

**Stay Solid** · 09-10-2010, 12:01 PM

I believe This will help you with some questions

***Prohormone OTC Chart***

**Sector** · 09-10-2010, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Stay Solid

I believe This will help you with some questions

***Prohormone OTC Chart***

Did you not read the first two sentences of that thread? It was stated that the following list was BEFORE the big ban and the OP just asked about NEW prohormones.

**Stay Solid** · 09-10-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Sector

Did you not read the first two sentences of that thread? It was stated that the following list was BEFORE the big ban and the OP just asked about NEW prohormones.

Wow excuse me for trying to help....

**lucyluciano** · 09-10-2010, 05:10 PM

Nothing better than SD, HD, EPI.

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-10-2010, 05:35 PM

That link could still help. All the new PH's stem from all the products mentioned in that chart.

Helladrol, Beastdrol, RPN Havoc, LG Methyl-Masterdrol, AMS 4-AD, LG Trifecta Stack, AMS 1-Androsterone, Iforce Testabolan, EST Hemadrol, Epistane, CEL H-Drol, CEL, M-Drol, XPN AndroXtreme-D, all still available.

**Ashop** · 09-10-2010, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by nastyman1212

I was wondering does any one no if theres any new prohormones out there sence the ban in early 2010 if I have that right..............if so are they any good and whats diffrence in the new and the old

I think all the good ones have been banned in the USA.

**nastyman1212** · 09-10-2010, 10:35 PM

I heard some companies were trying to make new prohormone type supps but with less sides.....idk if there as good thou

**nastyman1212** · 09-10-2010, 10:41 PM

so I looked at that list of all the ph.....im looking for a decent ph with the least amount of side affects.......if any 1 knows of any let me no thanks

**lil_herc81** · 09-11-2010, 09:53 AM

I have used the tri methylx 2010 and found it to be impressive for what it is. make sure to take milk thistle with any prohormones that you are taking.

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-11-2010, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

That link could still help. All the new PH's stem from all the products mentioned in that chart.

Helladrol, Beastdrol, RPN Havoc, LG Methyl-Masterdrol, AMS 4-AD, LG Trifecta Stack, AMS 1-Androsterone, Iforce Testabolan, EST Hemadrol, Epistane, CEL H-Drol, CEL, M-Drol, XPN AndroXtreme-D, all still available.

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Originally Posted by ****

I think all the good ones have been banned in the USA.

There are still products that available that live up to the hype.

**FuzzyPeaches o.O** · 09-11-2010, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by nastyman1212

so I looked at that list of all the ph.....im looking for a decent ph with the least amount of side affects.......if any 1 knows of any let me no thanks

This is just a suggestion but why not RESEARCH? Everyone wants an answer but no one wants to put in any effort for it.

**HawaiianPride.** · 09-11-2010, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by nastyman1212

so I looked at that list of all the ph.....im looking for a decent ph with the least amount of side affects.......if any 1 knows of any let me no thanks

Research these: Helladrol, Beastdrol, RPN Havoc, LG Methyl-Masterdrol, AMS 4-AD, LG Trifecta Stack, AMS 1-Androsterone, Iforce Testabolan, EST Hemadrol, Epistane, CEL H-Drol, CEL, M-Drol, XPN AndroXtreme-D, all still available.[/QUOTE]

Use the chart above to identify which suit your goals..

**swamp88** · 09-12-2010, 01:46 PM

hey, im lookin into taking helladrol from &&&&& any one know if its a quality product. ive taken pro-magnon and loved it before but its no longer availble, helladrol appears to have the same chemical.

**Rambo2** · 09-12-2010, 02:03 PM

I would say hemastan cause that works really well, but they just took it off the market. Not many out now that I know of that help to much anymore.

**spywizard** · 09-12-2010, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by swamp88

hey, im lookin into taking helladrol from &&&&& any one know if its a quality product. ive taken pro-magnon and loved it before but its no longer availble, helladrol appears to have the same chemical.

&&&&&& is good to go

**Zorrin** · 09-13-2010, 04:19 PM

In the UK, I've had no problem getting the "classical" prohormones - 4-AD, 1-AD, and 1,4-AD.

A bit about me. I'm 43, been weight training naturally on and off for 20 years, and I'm a chemist. I got interested in prohormones as a first step to Anabolic steroids .

I'm particularly impressed with 1-AD. Because it's a diol and not a dione, it converts at quite a high rate to 1-testosterone . Taking 3 100mg tabs a day gave me fantastic hard, dry gains. Methyl 1-test, which is the 17-methylated version, seems to be very different, with users on here reporting all sorts of sides.

My only sides were a little gastro pain with the first tablet (I was expecting this, and took it with food), and a reduction in libido after a few weeks (4-AD, which converts to testosterone, took care of this). It shuts your balls down as quick as a steroid though, I found.

I gained about 12 lbs in 60 days, and kept most of this, without PCT (I would recommend PCT though).

The 4-AD I purchased was 200mg pills. Due to a mix-up, I received 4 bottles rather than 1, I still have a ton left. I think 200mg pills are too large, I'd prefer to take several 50mg pills throughout the day.

Without Clomid or Nolva, I found that even one pill gave watery estrogenic effects. I take a pill, and my wedding ring won't come off or on my finger due to subcutaneous water.

Now I use "real" gear, but I still have a place for 1-AD. It's not methylated, but very orally active. I would recommend an injectible test base, a methylated oral steroid, but also 1-AD (whether bulking OR cutting). It places little or no stress on the liver, you can add it to anything.

1-test is a fantastic molecule, but it's rather too toxic when methylated (and it's nature is changed somewhat), and a very bad irritant to tissue if injected. I think the best way to get it into yourself is as 1-AD. It reminds me of winstrol a bit, or maybe Turinabol . I find my tendons and muscles ache on winstrol, but found that I rarely ached on 1-AD - and if I did, it was a "good" ache, if you know what I mean.

If you're using oral steroids , there's very little reason not to add 1-AD to your stack. I can't praise it enough. An injectable test base will keep everything downstairs working, then as much oral dianabol / Turinabol / winstrol as you dare subject your liver too. Then turbocharge it all with 300mg ed of 1-AD.

I'd be very interested in 19-norandro-diol if it was easy to find. The dione version can be got, but uses a less efficient enzyme pathway. A decent pro-nandralone would be very valuable.
I'm tempted to buy 100g of 19-norandro-diol from china and cap it myself

**brianpl** · 09-13-2010, 08:11 PM

Purus Labs had some good ones but I think they all got banned.
Nasty Mass - Tren and something else.
M14-E - M1,4add and Epistane
Epol - Superdrol and Tren(the newer version)
Halovar - Halodrol....still sold on some sites

**boyoboyo** · 09-14-2010, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

Research these: Helladrol, Beastdrol, RPN Havoc, LG Methyl-Masterdrol, AMS 4-AD, LG Trifecta Stack, AMS 1-Androsterone, Iforce Testabolan, EST Hemadrol, Epistane, CEL H-Drol, CEL, M-Drol, XPN AndroXtreme-D, all still available.

Use the chart above to identify which suit your goals..[/QUOTE]

whats your opinion on m-drol hp? iv got some lying about,but i hear different things where ever i look.

recomended doasge
how long to be on.
what gains to be expected (assuming good diet)
what PCT
is there risk of gyno