Low Dose Anavar and Test Supression

[Boomer24]

I'm a strength and agility athlete who's not a novice in term of cycle experience, but no expert either. I'm about to run:

Test E @ 600mg/wk/12wks
Deca @ 300mg/wk/10wks
Dbol @ 40mg/ed/wks 1-4
Winny @40mg/ed/Wks 8-12

I have enough Nolva. to run 30mg/ed/4wks
and Clomid @ 50mg/ed/4wks...starting about 3 weeks after my last pin.

I was thinking about running a very low dose of Var (20mg/ed/4-6wks) through pct in order to keep the iron moving...but will this totally inhibit natural test. production from picking back up post cycle? Would I be better off just hitting the var for 6 wks and then doing a pct? I don't want to waste the pct products AND I don't want to let the guy in my drawers become nothing but a flesh and blood paper weight! If I get convinced I can sit on the Var until next time.

I'm 31, 5'10, 215-220
Squat 405x11 (ass in the grass)
Dead 605x2
Bench 385x2
BF% - **** knows...but I'm not complaining

[D7M]

No, don't take even mildly suppressive drugs during PCT.

Save it for next time, bro.

[++++]

do winny at weeks 10-14 ,this will mean your useing winny in the 2 weeks while your waiting for the enanthate ester to clear ,day after last winny tab start pct.

[TKO Performance]

If that's your first cycle I'm going to advise you to dial it back a bit. A first cycle should be test e or c only. Maybe to a DBol kickstart, but nothing else. The problem is that with so many compounds when you get side effects you won't know where they are coming from. The proper way to do this is to grow up a cycle like this over many cycles, adding one more compound at a time.

BF% is important, complaining or not. The reason is that it will directly relate to how much of a chance of estrogen related side effects you have. You definitely need to have an AI on hand like Arimidex or Aromisin. Also, having some Letro available isn't a bad idea, but it should only be taken if absolutely necessary.

Using some HCG with your cycle is a good way to ensure that you return to 100% natural testicular function after the cycle.

PCT is close. I'd advise Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and Clomid at 100/50/50/50.

Running Anavar in PCT is a terrible, terrible idea. It is a suppressive compound and will be working against your PCT. Save if for a future cycle with test, maybe your second cycle.

[D7M]

If that's your first cycle I'm going to advise you to dial it back a bit. A first cycle should be test e or c only. Maybe to a DBol kickstart, but nothing else. The problem is that with so many compounds when you get side effects you won't know where they are coming from. The proper way to do this is to grow up a cycle like this over many cycles, adding one more compound at a time.

BF% is important, complaining or not. The reason is that it will directly relate to how much of a chance of estrogen related side effects you have. You definitely need to have an AI on hand like Arimidex or Aromisin. Also, having some Letro available isn't a bad idea, but it should only be taken if absolutely necessary.

Using some HCG with your cycle is a good way to ensure that you return to 100% natural testicular function after the cycle.

PCT is close. I'd advise Nolva at 40/40/20/20 and Clomid at 100/50/50/50.

Running Anavar in PCT is a terrible, terrible idea. It is a suppressive compound and will be working against your PCT. Save if for a future cycle with test, maybe your second cycle.

He said it's not his first cycle.

[TKO Performance]

Actually he said he was "not a novice in term of cycle experience, but no expert either". I'm guessing this is not his first cycle now, but what was previous experience. Sort of cryptic IMO, and still a lot of compounds even for a third or fourth cycle. It would be nice to know if he had experience with each compound he wants to run before combining all of them.

[D7M]

^Agreed.

It'd be better just to ask for his cycle experience...

[Boomer24]

TKO and D7M -
It's around my 8th, 9th (10th??) cycle. The first 4 were strictly dbol and test, and we're talking a good 7-8 years ago. So no, at that time I did no PCT and pretty much wasted some hard earned beer money on being able to brag about doing sets of 10 benching 225-250 hahaha! About 4 years of clean living with awesome gains and a lot of experience gained in regards to diet and training. Last cycle was a Sustenon like compund of esters (damned if I can recall the name of the lab, it was dosed at 350mg/ml), and EQ. Ran it for 10wks, and I'm pretty happy with the results. Ran the same PCT I outlined above(minus the var). Finished PCT in mid June. And yeah...still up 12lbs out of a total 18lb gain from pre cycle weight, so it's a winner in my book

++++ - That sounds a legit plan for the winny! What do you other lads think about that idea of easing into PCT with the winny?

[Sector]

++++ - That sounds a legit plan for the winny! What do you other lads think about that idea of easing into PCT with the winny?

Thats fine, common practice with Var/Winny and even some prohormones or dbol ( I personally dont care for the last two ).

Just dont be taking anything once you start your PCT

[Boomer24]

Understood. I read the sticky at the top of this forum titled "You'll want to read this". I'm going to give it a shot, so I'll be picking up for more gear and basically running 2, 8 weekers.

That post blew my friggin mind...I'm not taking it as gospel, but it makes perfect sense, and he laid it out pretty rationally so it seems worth the effort.

[sixey]

i am currently running 100mg ed of anavar, last week actually haha. anyways i have had ZERO negative sides, libido and sex drive are just as high as they have always been, balls are fine, etc. absolutely love this stuff!

[Sector]

i am currently running 100mg ed of anavar, last week actually haha. anyways i have had ZERO negative sides, libido and sex drive are just as high as they have always been, balls are fine, etc. absolutely love this stuff!

Are you only running 100mg of Anavar? If so how long? At that dose without test you will get some sides from being shutdown, just takes a few weeks.