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i want to start my cycle but i only have nolva on hand i know that everyone would say throw in some arimidex or l-dex to stop test->estro conversion. i had gyno symptoms when i was younger so i dont know whether i would be prone while on AS. can i get away with having a shit load of nolva and run it from the start?
just asking because back in the day i guess alot of guys got by (and still do) just with nolva.
hanging to start boys need help :)
peaker
Nolva is fine, your better choices would be the l-dex or a-dex and if you did a seach you could find the a-dex online.
i just dont want to have nolva stopping the binding and then get flushed once i finish my cycle with high estrogen levels during post cycle. if i stick with nolva with my clomid therapy i shouldnt have any gyno worries? i know i wont be able to know for sure until i do it.Quote:
Originally posted by abstrack
Nolva is fine, your better choices would be the l-dex or a-dex and if you did a seach you could find the a-dex online.
will the nolva help with stopping estrogenic fat? i know a-dex is best for that hands down.
peaker
Go to this site bro, your better off with liquidex than nolvadex. Liquidex will help big time with bloat and water retention as well as combat gyno due to estrogen conversion. You are not running deca in your cycle are you ? If you are you'll need bromo.Quote:
Originally posted by peaker
i want to start my cycle but i only have nolva on hand i know that everyone would say throw in some arimidex or l-dex to stop test->estro conversion. i had gyno symptoms when i was younger so i dont know whether i would be prone while on AS. can i get away with having a shit load of nolva and run it from the start?
just asking because back in the day i guess alot of guys got by (and still do) just with nolva.
hanging to start boys need help :)
peaker
You might want to edit this and PM him the website, I am pretty sure we can't post them, I know they aren't a source but we are trying to keep them around.Quote:
Originally posted by Ozzy
Go to this site bro, your better off with liquidex than nolvadex. Liquidex will help big time with bloat and water retention as well as combat gyno due to estrogen conversion. You are not running deca in your cycle are you ? If you are you'll need bromo.
Pain
I'm not sure either....I just notice other boards openly advertising in the same way at the top of this board for Sports Nutrition. I think Rickson would have been on top of it by now ! If not I'll stand to be crucified and punished. :(
If they edit it, they edit it, I know what you are talking about some boards are sponsered by "research" companies. I just think it is good to keep these companies safe.
Pain
Don't worry FI is on top of it :D Yeah keep the source posting to pm's please. Even though some sites might be legal in some places etc. its safer this way Thx!
bump need some good advice
could i get by running proviron at 50mg/day throught instead of arimidex?
ooops , my bad......ok so what's my punishment ? One day ban from AR......20 minutes time-out ? :cry:Quote:
Originally posted by Full Intensity
Don't worry FI is on top of it :D Yeah keep the source posting to pm's please. Even though some sites might be legal in some places etc. its safer this way Thx!
Whip me beat me make me feel cheap like the pig that I am :eek:
yes the proviron will be ok also, but I belive you can still run the nolva throughout and keep on running with post clomid therapy and you shoud be fine. proviron would be your better choice if no a-dex or l-dex
u think 20mg/day from day 1 till end of clomid will be sufficient? will this stop gyno tissue getting worse if any was left there when i was younger?Quote:
Originally posted by abstrack
yes the proviron will be ok also, but I belive you can still run the nolva throughout and keep on running with post clomid therapy and you shoud be fine. proviron would be your better choice if no a-dex or l-dex
just really stressed because the only places i seem to have fat is on my chest, lower abs and love handles, pretty lean else where.. take a look at my pics let me know what you think.
Check your messages bro...........
yep i think you will be fine not unless you start to get sign of gyno then you might want to bumo it up but i belive at 20mg per day all the way through and even run it along with clomid , you should be fine.
Dude youu not even fat or holding any fat if I can see, pretty lean. You know your body better than I do though so try it out. i dont think it will get worse as long as you keep it under control now. just pay close attention to yourself but 20mg/day should be sufficient enough
thanks bro, i think i will start jabbing soon :)Quote:
Originally posted by abstrack
yep i think you will be fine not unless you start to get sign of gyno then you might want to bumo it up but i belive at 20mg per day all the way through and even run it along with clomid , you should be fine.
Dude youu not even fat or holding any fat if I can see, pretty lean. You know your body better than I do though so try it out. i dont think it will get worse as long as you keep it under control now. just pay close attention to yourself but 20mg/day should be sufficient enough
will the nolva help with estrogenic fat i might put on? got a feeling i put some of it on my chest before i stopped my first cycle 2 weeks in?
ozzy: thanks for that :)
peak
Not a problem my friend.....pm me if you have any other questions.
check your pm ozzy
bump.