Beginner cycle, to dbol or not to dbol.

[flexandex]

Was just wanting to get a feel for the communitys overall view on wether a newbie should add the 4week dbol kickstart to their 10week test-e cycle.

I know there are varying views on this.. sooo. GOGO!

[HawaiianPride.]

No. It's not needed. Test only on a novice cycle will do just fine.

[flexandex]

risk vs reward

the risk wins out?

[bodybuilder]

Thanks. I am getting ready to start my very first test cycle and have some d-boll on hand and was debating weather or not to run it or save it for my next cycle. Looks like ill be saving it.

[flexandex]

im in the same boat brah!

I was thinking with the slow esther etc the dbol would help me to realize quicker if i was ERSE prone or not.. probably just convincing myself to add more gear.

One other thing, my test is test-300, would it be so bad to just shoot it as is? at 600mg per week, or should i stick to the 500?

[nath78]

With the dbol you will notice change quicker,it adds a lot of water weight,but overall will not make a difference in your gains,imo there shite!test e is all you need(really good cycle).

[HawaiianPride.]

600mg PW first time is too much. Same with 500mg. 400mg PW would be fine. If you can do the math, go that route.

[flexandex]

hahahaha, yeah the math is no problem.

fuu mabey someone should ammend the sticky about beginner cycle. it advocates 500 with the option of dbol . I guess most of the stuff in this buisness is opinion based

[flexandex]

I think i'll hit 0.7 ml every 3.5 days which will come out as 420mg PW

[ScotchGuard02]

Stay simple on the first cycle is good advice. I got acne with sustanon as my first cycle. It was really bad and I didn't know which ester was causing the problem. I shoulda stayed simple on the first cycle.

[flexandex]

ahwell, pretty clear results

no dbol munchin' for me

[flexandex]

Just on another note; what would you guys think about substituting TBOL for DBOL in the kickstart. would it have the same effect? be worthwhile?

[Matt]

Just not needed imo, if your diet and training are spot on then test only will yeild huge gains at even low doses.....