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    Question on test Cyp or sust?

    In Dec I'm going to be starting another cycle but I am wondering if I should use test cyp or sust with deca and masta..

    Any input on the test cyp or sust? Which one has less bloating?

    900mg wk for cyp or (1000mg wk for sust)
    600 mg wk deca.
    400 mg wk masta..

    16wk cycle

    Nolva and clomid at the end..

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    Stats?

    age
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    cycle exp
    planned pct
    goal with this cycle
    ancillaries planned

    Cyp and Sust can carry the can same amount of bloat. The cause of bloat isn't the Test ester generally, it's your diet.

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    If you did some reading, searching you would see Test is Test is Test. Only difference is the frequency of injecting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    If you did some reading, searching you would see Test is Test is Test. Only difference is the frequency of injecting.
    No, no, no....

    It's Test is Test is Test is Test is Test is test........then it's test again. Come on old fart. Memory can't be that bad already

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    Stats?

    age
    weight
    height
    bf
    training exp
    cycle exp
    planned pct
    goal with this cycle
    ancillaries planned

    Cyp and Sust can carry the can same amount of bloat. The cause of bloat isn't the Test ester generally, it's your diet.
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    2 cycles test p tren a winny
    currently on gh(2 kits left total 8 months)
    2 test e tren e masta cycles
    20/20/20/20 nolva 100/100/50/50 clomid
    6 yrs training
    goal is to add little more muscle before next summer

    My diet is as good as I can get it for now.. I wake up 4am 6 days a week for work..

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    With that cycle you are just shy of 2grams of anabolics all together. You don't have much an extensive prior to anabolics so what is the reason you plan on running such a harsh cycle?

    Can you not make any significant gains with moderately supratherapeutic doses?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    With that cycle you are just shy of 2grams of anabolics all together. You don't have much an extensive prior to anabolics so what is the reason you plan on running such a harsh cycle?

    Can you not make any significant gains with moderately supratherapeutic doses?
    I did reading and mostly all stated that those doses would be most affective.. I would rather go lower with dose if I can achieve what I'm looking for..

    Thats why I asked the questions..

    Thanks for the reply..

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    So if I understand your other posts this will be your 3rd cycle correct?

    I agree w/HP there is no reason why you need 1g a week of test, half of that would be sufficient.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dang-It View Post
    I did reading and mostly all stated that those doses would be most affective.. I would rather go lower with dose if I can achieve what I'm looking for..

    Thats why I asked the questions..

    Thanks for the reply..
    I go by the infamous quote "get away with the LEAST amount you can get away with while achieving results".

    3rd cycle and your beyond intermediate level users.

    Of course more steroids in your system may bring more gains. But they'll also bring more ill related side effects. Side effects that would have been less severe with lower dosages that could still giving you pleasing results.

    On the course your going, what's your next cycle going to consist of? 3grams of anabolics per week? 4 grams the next cycle? When does it end? You won't be cycling long before you have some serious health issues I guarantee that.

    You have all the time in the world the work your way up. Just because someone says pumping 2 grams of synthetic hormones into your ass doesn't meant you should do it simply because it'll work better.

    Think about the risks first vs. the rewards.

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    im running a bulker this winter, looks like this
    dbol 30mg ed week 1-4
    500mg test-e week 1-12
    300mg deca week 1-10
    proviron 50mg ed week 6-12
    pct hcg nolva clomid....

    if u cant grow on a simple cycle like that then u have something wrong with diet or training.

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    I wouldn't call that a simple cycle unless you have at least 3-4 cycles under your belt with significant training and nutrition experience.

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    ^^^^ True story

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavlenko View Post
    im running a bulker this winter, looks like this
    dbol 30mg ed week 1-4
    500mg test-e week 1-12
    300mg deca week 1-10
    proviron 50mg ed week 6-12
    pct hcg nolva clomid....

    if u cant grow on a simple cycle like that then u have something wrong with diet or training.
    i running that exact cycle right now and have already gained 24lbs in the first 4 weeks (granted it is mostly water weight)

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    No, no, no....

    It's Test is Test is Test is Test is Test is test........then it's test again. Come on old fart. Memory can't be that bad already
    hahahaha

    You honestly had me. I saw the No, no, no and thought what did I miss

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