What you guys think

[liftw8t]

Hey guys wanted to get some opinions on a few things. Now I have heard numerous times that each cycle you must increase the amount of test you used on previous cycle. On another note I have heard that its about finding an amount that works for you as far as growing. With this being said would it be wise to keep cycles Test only until you find the dose that you can handle without sides. Example for a beginner:

First Cycle: Test E 500mg 1-12 wks

Second Cycle: Test E 600 mg 1-12 wks

THird Cycle: Test E 750 mg 1-12 wks

say 750 mg is the highest dose of test is this when you should be adding in things like Dbol or WInny, then Deca or EQ and start raising doses with these for continuing cycles?

Hope this makes sense, please give your insight on this.

[scotty51312]

Personally i don't see why you need to raise the test dose as long as your getting results. If its still working why waste money on more test? My 2nd cycle is going to be a stack and i'm actually lowering the test from 500 to 400mg. There's no point in pushing the limits to just see when you get sides IMO

[D7M]

I don't think you need to increase the dose every cycle to grow.

Eventually you will, sure. But not in your first few cycles.

[liftw8t]

Okay no i was having a debate with someone on if this was beneficial because you learn what your body is responding to instead of jumping straight into a Test, Deca, Dbol cycle second cycle after a Test solo first cycle or Test oral first cycle.

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

If you were to jump into test/deca/dbol for your 2nd cycle after a test only 1st cycle and you were starting to get gyno right away (very early in the cycle) whats the root cause? Is it the 19nor (since this is the 1st time you ran it)? Or is it the dbol (afterall dbol does aromatase at a pretty modest rate)?

It is obvious that it is wiser to take things one at a time so you can understand your body and how it handles each compound. You wont be left guessing, it could have been this or it could have been that..

In the end you would attack the gyno pretty much the same way, via estro, but the point is to understand why it happened in the 1st place.

[Times Roman]

If you had to raise the amount of test with each cycle, then some of these mates would be taking multiple grams/week, or more.

[liftw8t]

true thanks guys very helpful

[stpete]

Not true at all!! People forget that diet and exercise works wonders! I do pretty good at 42 years old using test at 500-700mgs per week. Typically though it's around 500mgs. I have used bigger dosages but i didn't get any bigger gains from it.

[inky-e]

I've gone as high as 1k of test, way back, but now I really find no reason to go past 400-500 mg's max. My test levels were tested recently while on test 400mg's and tren 500 mg's and the level was 4800. Its more than enough. The higher you go the more sides you'll get imo. Recently I've gone from 17" arms to 19" with the cycle I mentioned. I'd like to get to 20".

[vettewreck]

I didnt really start raising the does untill I was about stalled out on any type of gains. Id say normally you should be able to run the same cycle 3-5 times before its time to bump up the doses DEPENDING on time off inbetween.

[liftw8t]

I didnt really start raising the does untill I was about stalled out on any type of gains. Id say normally you should be able to run the same cycle 3-5 times before its time to bump up the doses DEPENDING on time off inbetween.

Interesting I heard this once before and I feel that is true because only reason I see raising dose is if no longer gaining