Tren + Androgel or Testin for the first time <Need your advice>

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I just started taking 19 Nor Tren from Element Nutrition (19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione) 3 pills a day = 120 Mg a day, and using 1 Tube of Testim in the morning, and 4 Pumps of Androgel at night. I am 44 y/o 5'11" weighing 200# (when I started a week ago), 22 BF%.

I am running blood tests every 2 months, and my doctor is pretty open minded. My Test Total came in at 500 (before the cycle), and my IGF-1 is within normal levels so the insurance will not cover for my Human Growth Hormone replacement; therefore I am not doing HGH. Nutrition is good + Creatine, NO, Beta Alanine, etc.

In the first week on the stack I went from 200# to 197# in a few days, and felt/look leaner, now 7 days later I am at 202# and feel/look fuller.

My questions are:

1) Would it be a good idea to now add, say 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol at 2 pils x day = 40 mg total per day?

2) The Tren (19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione) I am currently taking does not contain "Milk Thistle", is this something I would need with the stack I have been taking, or just something I can add when/if I start taking the 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol

3) What is recommended to maintain the liver as clean/protected as possible during a pro-hormone cycle? I hear of "Liver Cleanse" by Champion Nutrition, and "Liver Care" from Himalaya.

My experience with Pro-Hormones is limited so thank you in advance for your advice.

[desizon]

You talking about running epi/tren?
Epi being the 2a,3a -?

[Comandante]

You talking about running epi/tren?
Epi being the 2a,3a -?

Actually, I have been taking the 19 Nor Tren (or 19 Tren Nor), and wanted to switch to Equilone from NutraCoastal (distributed by Physical Addictions) since the Equilone contains:

• Milk Thistle (80% Silymarin) 300 mg
• 19-norandrosta 4, 9 diene 3, 17 dione 60 mg
• 2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyletioallocholanol 20 mg

Serving Size 2 Capsules x day.

The 2 reasons I wanted to switch are:

1. The addition of Milk Thistle to the stack.
2. To experiment with the 2a, 3a component.

Any recommendations or comments are welcome. Thanks

[Comandante]

The one thing that I have experienced is an increased libido by about 75 % in the last 48 hours. It most be the Testin/Androgel combination.

[Comandante]

Here is the stuff I am taking now:

http://www.supplementcentral.com/ele...nor-90-capsule

and, this is what I want to switch to:

http://www.supplementcentral.com/nut...one-90-capsule

I also have available this:

http://www.supplementcentral.com/i-f...200-60-capsule

and this:

http://www.supplementcentral.com/kil...var-60-capsule

What can I stack with what? I need real suggestions, and no BS advice. Thanks