The young and Steroids

[marcus300]

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[marcus300]

A must read

[marcus300]

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[Tonka8]

Great post

[Semageo]

thanks for the advice and especially the plausible explantions

[Sathane]

I'm definitely not 'too young' (34 y/o) so any irreversible changes would be caused by incorrect dosing, correct? Or is there a huge risk regardless?

[ppwc1985]

I'm definitely not 'too young' (34 y/o) so any irreversible changes would be caused by incorrect dosing, correct? Or is there a huge risk regardless?

No, I'm going to throw my story here. I did some oral cycles back in my mid 20's. but never had no problems. Fast forward to jan 2012, to make long story short I did 6 week cycle of var, never had issues back in the day and did not have no problem after this one. Fast forward to June , I found this site so learned I shouldn't do oral only cycle. Mt test was in the 600-700 range before my next cycle which I started in June. 500 mg test cyp ew, 100 mg var Ed liquid stane 12.5 mg Ed. No Hcg. 12 week cycle went very well. Finished, Pct in oct, I just chose novldex. I did not come back right. Started losing energy, added bodyfat, and no ejaculation. I'm 46 now and into my 6 th week of trt for the rest of my life. Like my dr, who is o e of the top guys in trt said, some guys can do gear all their life and they will be fine and others like me messed myself up for 15 lbs Lbm. Was it worth it, HELL NO. I could have added that 15 lbs naturally, but I decided to take a shortcut just like 75% of users. It's not worth it. Stay natural unless you plan on being a pro bodybuilder.

[VzThunder]

Good read mate, thanks for the advice.

[LbforLb152]

Eye opener with the age and allowing ur body to develop. Nice post

[leaveittome]

this thread made me realize that i should wait until im 25-26.I dont want to put my body more of a higher risk of side effects. In the meantime I'll just stick with my good ole creatine

[mystogan117]

i always thought test levels were at your highest at 21 but 25 sounds good to me

[marcus300]

bump

[bass]

I wonder what made you bump this thread Marcus!

[marcus300]

I wonder what made you bump this thread Marcus!

kids

[bass]

LOL. quite few lately hah!

[Mellow]

Been wanting to cycle since I was 17 as i've always been bigger and stronger than others my age lol. but good read, just gotta peak out natty now lol

[bass]

patience is a virtue! there is no way around it, to do it right you got to let your body mature naturally and reach its potential, then consider AAS.

[proteinshake1992]

Great text!

Hopefully everyone who considers use of AAS under the age of 25 reads this.

[twostepsforward]

Incredible, and informative article!! Thank you so much! This gives me a LOT of food for thought!

[thebambi]

What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I'm 19 and have been researching into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of achieving my goals in 5 years, i could achieve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn't be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of bodybuilding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

[ickythump]

What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I'm 19 and have been researching into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of achieving my goals in 5 years, i could achieve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn't be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of bodybuilding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

Bud these guys die all the time, most people refer to Arnold who will openly say he messed up, he has health ailments, bypasses and such....also, it will affect your system, it can after one cycle....8 weeks is mostly useless with most steroids in terms of gains but they all shut you down quick....put it this way, if you get results, your hpta will be shut down, and may never re start the same way.........science, not broscience....besides, at your age I was almost built like I am now, but after a lengthy set back, it took a long time to get here as I am less testosterone fueled than I wasten years ago, keep that stuff in mind bubba

[jgrayson60]

What about only doing 1 or max 2 every 1 or 2 years. I'm 19 and have been researching into steroids for about 6 months, I want to get a head start in the fitness world and instead of achieving my goals in 5 years, i could achieve them in 2/3 years. Yes people may call that cheating, but life is too short and i want to get as far as possible as early as possible, so if i just done an 8 week bulking cycle and an 8 week cutting cycle each once a year, that shouldn't be messing with my hormones too much should it? I would think over using would bite you in the back. Also my next point, the golden age of bodybuilding.. all the living legends, they abused steroids from a young age and are all still healthy and still lifting with no known health issues.

I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

[ickythump]

I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

You shouldn't be offering anyone advice

[marcus300]

I would say pm me so we can talk, cuz I am in the spot as you. But first you have to get 50 posts

please no one listen to this kid, he doesn't know anything about what he is going to do to his body and he can obtain his goals naturally if only he had the mentality to properly train correctly and understand foods.

[MalignantTyrant]

please no one listen to this kid, he doesn't know anything about what he is going to do to his body and hecan obtain his goals naturally if only he had the mentality to properly train correctly and understand foods.

Do you honestly think that someone like myself can look like someone like Batista naturally? Even with proper diet and training? Pfft, sure, whatever.
I understand what you're getting at, but I have my doubts

[OdinsOtherSon]

Do you honestly think that someone like myself can look like someone like Batista naturally? Even with proper diet and training? Pfft, sure, whatever.
I understand what you're getting at, but I have my doubts

Not the most stellar of first posts, especially in reply to a member such as marcus300, but, oh well. Welcome.

[marcus300]

Do you honestly think that someone like myself can look like someone like Batista naturally? Even with proper diet and training? Pfft, sure, whatever.
I understand what you're getting at, but I have my doubts

That comment clearly comes from someone who has no idea how to really train to failure and go beyond the pain threshold and I also suspect you have no idea how to eat to build mass/size. Takes years of practise and your just at the pre-cum stage. Learn how to train properly and a whole new world will open

[MalignantTyrant]

That comment clearly comes from someone who has no idea how to really train to failure and go beyond the pain threshold and I also suspect you have no idea how to eat to build mass/size. Takes years of practise and your just at the pre-cum stage. Learn how to train properly and a whole new world will open

OK, but I still doubt I'll get anywhere near that naturally...

[jgrayson60]

You shouldn't be offering anyone advice

Lol man get off of me, any advice I would give would be directly from research articles I find! And I would give them a source to where I learned my info. You are new to this site to, careful when injecting I wouldn't want you to lose to much blood.

[ickythump]

Lol man get off of me, any advice I would give would be directly from research articles I find! And I would give them a source to where I learned my info. You are new to this site to, careful when injecting I wouldn't want you to lose to much blood.

Too* and uhh, everyone has questions that's why they're here, no one said your question about working the injected muscle was dumb so don't insinuate my questions are dumb....also, if you had read the thread you SHOULD have said I wouldn't want you to lose too much TEST, but hey, I know you obviously just breezed thru tofind some dirt, I commend the effort......anyhow, I highly doubt you have any worthwhile info that need to be pm'd, why can't you just post your info??

[jgrayson60]

Bud these guys die all the time, most people refer to Arnold who will openly say he messed up, he has health ailments, bypasses and such....also, it will affect your system, it can after one cycle....8 weeks is mostly useless with most steroids in terms of gains but they all shut you down quick....put it this way, if you get results, your hpta will be shut down, and may never re start the same way.........science, not broscience....besides, at your age I was almost built like I am now, but after a lengthy set back, it took a long time to get here as I am less testosterone fueled than I wasten years ago, keep that stuff in mind bubba

Your right man, I'm sorry I dont know what got in to me. Sorry for making fun of you. When really I am making fun of myself. You guys are just trying to talk sense in me.

[ickythump]

Your right man, I'm sorry I dont know what got in to me. Sorry for making fun of you. When really I am making fun of myself. You guys are just trying to talk sense in me.

That was surprisingly mature from a young person.....like it's been said, you should simply wait, if you don't, all the tools you need are here but I wouldn't expect any input from most people, largely because no one wants to feel responsible when someone messes themselves up...

[CaptainDwamn]

Great advice, but unfortunany a lot of people my age don't seem to realize how great this advice really is. I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Although this advice might not be takin by everyone my age at least it's here for the people who really care about their health and bodies!

[marcus300]

Great advice, but unfortunany a lot of people my age don't seem to realize how great this advice really is. I appreciate you taking the time to post this. Although this advice might not be takin by everyone my age at least it's here for the people who really care about their health and bodies!

Wise and mature

[CaptainDwamn]

Thanks Marcus,

I'm simply trying to familiarize myself with this information now so later down the road should I decide to experiment with aas I will know my risks and how to minimize them while getting the most out of my cycle. I also realize there is a lot of great information to be taken from te threads that I can apply to my training now. (nutrition, routines, ect,) Are there any threads that you would recommend?

[nussnussbaby]

Thanks for posting!

[daynnite]

Thanks for clearing this up. I will definitely postpone me going on a cycle for atleast a couple years. I've been training for about 3-4 years, and it is very frustrating to not get the results you want. Recently, I noticed my scoliosis is coming back. This coupled with my knee tendinosis (degrading of the knee tendon) has made me search for anabolics to try to grow my tendons and muscles back to their norm. hGH and IGF-1 would surely help my knee recover quickly with a good training program and diet. But after all of this research lately, I think I'll keep training with my 5x5 program and keep squatting. I'll be back on this forum in a few years.

[Tonck1]

Great read. I'm 22 and this has got me thinking.

[sambrown]

This post is very useful for newbie.

[JuiceBox7]

great read! i believe theirs curtain circumstances like if a athlete is trying to play pro ball or something and is willing to take the risk.