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    Question 100 mg ED of Anavar for 10 weeks / no liver care...bad idea?

    This would be my first cycle. I don't want to lose out on the Var experience at all and I've read Liv52 can break the stuff down. I know Var is a relatively mild roid. Would I survive without Liv52?

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    If you are worried about it, then utilize liver care. It's that simple. I've known guys come out fine with a simple Var cycle. Enzymes checked out A okay as long as nothing interferes like Alcohol during the cycle.

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    nice cycle ,it wil give some solid lean gains ,no need to take liv supp imo as long as you keep diet clean ,stay away from the booze you should be fine .

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    Dude, it's like $10.00 for a bottle that last MONTHS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boundup View Post
    Dude, it's like $10.00 for a bottle that last MONTHS.
    you ever thought why its $10 a bottle? its becasue it dont do jack sh it

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    Will drink no alcohol on cycle. My morning multi-vitamin does have about 49 mg of liver care in it (including milk thistle). A small dose, but a little something is better than nothing I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiflersmom View Post
    liver care is futile while on cycle. run it before and after.
    i disagree with that ,i have done high dose anadrol and had liver values done befroe and after cycle and no change at all ,an yes the anadrol were real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stiflersmom;537***7
    your saying you values were the same before a cycle of drol as they were after and you are attributing it to liver care?
    am saying i run 150mgs of britsih despecery anadrol for 6 weeks with no liver protectiona nd there was no change in liver values.

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    100mg of Var is a bad ass dose. As sad above, you can never be too careful with your liver. Looking forward to seeing your progress.

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    Dose is too high for a first cycle. Scale back to 50mg. Shorten cycle to 8 weeks. The reason you don't want to run 100mg for your first cycle is that as a first timer your body won't be able to make efficient use of such a high dose. A lower dose will effectively have the same effect. 100mg is the saturation dose, meaning that taking any more will not give nay further results. You want to use that dose for a third cycle and beyond, when your body will be able to make best use of it. It seems you will need higher doses for future cycles too, and if you start off with the max dose it leaves you nowhere to go.

    Take liver support, not doing so is foolish. Milk thistle will not reduce the effectiveness of Anavar . It will aid in the production of new healthy liver cells, and promote detoxification. This all happens after the Anavar has made the jump into your blood stream.

    PCT protocol should be Clomid at 50/50/50 or Nolva at 20/20/20. Start PCT immediately after ending the Anavar.

    I would keep Avena Sativa and Tribulus on hand in case libido issues manifest.

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    Agreed. 50mg ed of Var is plenty for a first timer. Starting with 100mg would be like a first timer starting with 750mg of test a week. Yes it will give you great gains but its overkill and you will get the same gains on 500mg (and in this case 50mg var). Run 50mg dude. Save some money, go easy on your liver, and you'll still make the same great gains considering its your first cycle. Up it on your second or 3rd bro.

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    On a side note, Ive had several friends complain about ED around the 7-8 week mark on 60-80mg of Var. Might want to pick up some boner pills if you have a Ms. that would not take kindly to a limp noodle

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    var only can fuk with your libido.

    liver care = milk thistle and NAC seems to work for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Times Roman View Post
    var only can fuk with your libido.

    liver care = milk thistle and NAC seems to work for me
    Right. I'll be running 525 mg per week of test prop alongside it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettewreck View Post
    Agreed. 50mg ed of Var is plenty for a first timer. Starting with 100mg would be like a first timer starting with 750mg of test a week. Yes it will give you great gains but its overkill and you will get the same gains on 500mg (and in this case 50mg var). Run 50mg dude. Save some money, go easy on your liver, and you'll still make the same great gains considering its your first cycle. Up it on your second or 3rd bro.
    All I have is 50 mg Var pills. Because of its half-life, I'm almost forced to do 100 mg ED. I'm also just going by the info found on the main site which says 80 mg - 100 mg a day.

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    In conjunction with liver support it won't even be a true 50mg due to the breakdown process. I'd start at 75mg and assess accordingly from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiianPride. View Post
    In conjunction with liver support it won't even be a true 50mg due to the breakdown process. I'd start at 75mg and assess accordingly from there.
    Since I have only 50 mg pills, my plan is to down one upon waking and take the other mid-afternoon. 100 mgs a day. A very small 49 mg dosing of milk thistle in my multi-vitamin. Ready to rock and roll. No alcohol on cycle and very little alcohol to date as it is.

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    Milk thistle is awesome stuff. Quality stuff costs around 30 bucks for a small bottle of 500mg pills. Worth every penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKO Performance View Post
    Dose is too high for a first cycle. Scale back to 50mg. Shorten cycle to 8 weeks. The reason you don't want to run 100mg for your first cycle is that as a first timer your body won't be able to make efficient use of such a high dose. A lower dose will effectively have the same effect. 100mg is the saturation dose, meaning that taking any more will not give nay further results. You want to use that dose for a third cycle and beyond, when your body will be able to make best use of it. It seems you will need higher doses for future cycles too, and if you start off with the max dose it leaves you nowhere to go.

    Take liver support, not doing so is foolish. Milk thistle will not reduce the effectiveness of Anavar . It will aid in the production of new healthy liver cells, and promote detoxification. This all happens after the Anavar has made the jump into your blood stream.

    PCT protocol should be Clomid at 50/50/50 or Nolva at 20/20/20. Start PCT immediately after ending the Anavar.

    I would keep Avena Sativa and Tribulus on hand in case libido issues manifest.

    Solid post.

    I plan on runnign 50mg of var for 8 weeks and it will be my first cycle as well.

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    I run liv52 year round. Are you saying this may stop some gains while on var?

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    if its 100% pure Var from a legit supplier, 50mg/day for a average male will show nice results.....but got the find the right supplier

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeLiveForTheBill View Post
    This would be my first cycle. I don't want to lose out on the Var experience at all and I've read Liv52 can break the stuff down. I know Var is a relatively mild roid. Would I survive without Liv52?
    I've done 12 weeks at 60mg's ed var only with no issues at all. If I was to try it again I would do 40mg's ed for 16 weeks.

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    for a liver supplement ive always taken Liv.52 - you can get it from www. liversupport.co .uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by slimshady01 View Post
    I run liv52 year round. Are you saying this may stop some gains while on var?
    It doesn't stop gains completely it cuts out the greater amount of the steroid . I've never had any issues in my experience though. So the term "greater" may be an exaggeration but it is true, it will interfere.

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    So the money saved on pins went to splurging on Var?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Considering View Post
    So the money saved on pins went to splurging on Var?

    Yep, Var trumps sanitary pins any day. I'll happily fight off an infection on Var. With Var, I am basically Superman. That is all.
    Last edited by SomeLiveForTheBill; 10-10-2010 at 11:59 AM.

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    ANAVAR is a realtively mild AAS however at 100mg daily you are getting a nice amount.
    I like liver protectants ALL the time whether its on of off cycle,,,they are just great for
    general health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeLiveForTheBill View Post
    Right. I'll be running 525 mg per week of test prop alongside it.
    how long are you running test p?
    how long you running var?

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