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    Lump after Sust injection - help

    Hi guys,

    My friend shot me with 1ml of Sust by an UGL he has used before... Pain free injection, however next day my glute was in serious pain, and was for the next 48 hours, injected on Wednesday.

    Now on Monday, most pain has gone, and swelling has gone more localised to a lump in my glute that feels bruised,,, is it infected, what should I do?

    I injected with good sterile technique, and the vial had been used for weeks previous and since by my friend who has no problems...

    The lump only shows when tensed:


    http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8474/img0060uh.jpg

    Tensing:

    http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8061/img0061pt.jpg

    Im quite worried about this and not sure if its an abscess, please advise guys

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    Very common.

    Remedies to alleviate such issues:
    1:1 ration w/ cotton or grape seed oil.
    Sleep with heating pads at night on the pin area
    Pre-warm oil to let the juice disperse easier
    Inject in the muscle prior to training that muscle to let the oil disperse easier
    Massage thoroughly 5-8 minutes to let the oil disperse easier
    Wait it out, for most the pain will subside
    Rotate spot injections
    Inject slow
    Make sure the volume of the injection is suitable for the muscle you are pinning in.

    Doesn't look infected to me from the naked eye. Discoloration is good indication of injection. Usually lumps will subside. Supplement anti-inflam medicine in the meantime and take heed to the advice above.

    Sounds like your UGL is very dirty or in other words high in preservatives. Always go HG over UGL (if you can).

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    Looks like a possile sterile abcess. If no more pain comes, or the skin isnt hot to the touch, give it a week or so. If the lump is still as big as in the pic, go to the doc for some antibiotics. Thats all you can do.

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    Ok, what do I do as this was my first injection of Sust, I cba with this pain lump again -- I have some Test Enan by the same lab, should I switch to this?

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    Take heed to the advice I've given above and it will help your lump/pain issues.

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    Yea I will incorporate the methods, I meant to warm it up but forgot.. my friend shoots from same vial and never has any issues, lol

    I was just wondering if Test E will cuase less pain then the Sust, the Test E I have is definately a thinner liquid then the Sust if this matters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomUK View Post
    Yea I will incorporate the methods, I meant to warm it up but forgot.. my friend shoots from same vial and never has any issues, lol

    I was just wondering if Test E will cuase less pain then the Sust, the Test E I have is definately a thinner liquid then the Sust if this matters?

    ^^Depends on the quality of the gear/ugl/batches/preservatives they use. I've had horrible Enanthate and painless Sust. It all depends on your source bro.
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    Could he run it through a 22uf Whatman and put into another vial? Only time I got a lump that stayed was on my first injections, now it's never an issue at all.

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    How long was the needle you guys used for injection? Could be that your buddy shot the oil into fat. In that case the lump will stay there for a few days.

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    ****s sake!! my right glute is now almost painless and the lumpis going down day by day, which I guess is good

    However, injected my left glute last night with another vial ProChem Test E 300, thinking might help with PIP and its pretty much following the same process as my last injection,, slowly all day its been starting to hurt again and now I can tell when I go to bed in the morning I wont be able to walk..

    I guess it;s good to know it;s jsut PIP, but the thing is, how am I suppose to ever train legs if at any given day Im going to have **** loads of pain in either of my glutes, and secondly I play basketball 4times a week (or im suppose to),, cant keep missing practises,,,

    Whats my solution, is it the pro chem brand Im allergic to? Should I try a different brand?

    ps, my friend shoots using the same vials at the same time as me and has 0 pip, must just me allergic to something?

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    I am going through sort of the same thing man, I shot test and deca tho and got a lump on my right glute except its at the top of my ass. I shot mine Thursday. It was my second shot of this cycle. Lump is still there but the pain has gotten a lil better.

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    I just had the exact same issue to the point im very nervous about next one

    Hawaiian Pride...
    Regarding the grape seed oil. This is something I can buy otc? No other preparation needed, i.e. heat etc? Just load it up with the Test?

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    I am a newbie so take it for what its worth but you should probably edit the name of the sust from your post .
    Last edited by Far from massive; 10-06-2010 at 06:13 AM.

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    Hey bro... Its usually only the first couple that are like that... Saying that if its a long time between cycles it may be the same for your next cycle... Im in the same boat... Cant use left cheek for sitting shitting or much actually. Due to do the right side tomorrow and ill have no ass left at all.. be sleeping on my stomach for a few days and squatting ta shit... Its all part of the game youre playing!

    Anti inflamatories seem to help a fare bit...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigjerdog View Post
    I just had the exact same issue to the point im very nervous about next one

    Hawaiian Pride...
    Regarding the grape seed oil. This is something I can buy otc? No other preparation needed, i.e. heat etc? Just load it up with the Test?
    You can buy sterile filtered GSO online

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    Due to pin today. Gonna have to stick it out another week. I will use HawaiianPrides suggestions though and see how it goes. I am ordering some GSO ASAP for my BUTT

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    I got some GSO and it helped ALOT! I just warm the GSO in water. I also started pinning more to the lower center on my glute and that helped alot to. The more times you pin during a cycle the less it hurts. The knot will still be there though.

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    So did the lump subside? I'm having the same problem and wondering how long it will take to go away? It's been 5 days now and still no progress really and the pain has seemed to move up my glute. Should I continue to use sust?

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    I hope his lump went away in two years.

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    What length pin are you using? 1 and 1/2 is the correct answer. If it is 1", I can explain your problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420
    I hope his lump went away in two years.
    So funny. Whoops, forgot to look at dates

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