20 Week Cycle - How to Get Test Levels to Actually Drop

[SomeRandomGuy]

So I'm trying Ronnie's STS out for a 20 weeker.

Concept seems plausible. Body doesn't respond to steroids after 8 weeks, and the idea is to drop the mg by half or PCT during a 2 week break, basically cruise. After the break, you do another 8 week blast with ~2x the mg of steroids. Then another cruise or deload, and then wait for PCT, and follow that. With about 10 weeks off before next cycle.

This sounds great, but the problem is that I'm using long esters. Enanthate and Decanoate. 10.5/13 day halflives. How am I going to see any noticeable drop in blood serum levels during that 2 week break in between my 8 weekers? If I just stop pinning starting that 2 week period, I would think that it wouldn't lower my active mg very noticeably. At that point even if I stop, I will still have 8 weeks and 16 injections working their looong halflives through my system. I might see a drop after those two weeks are over, but that's not what I want.

I should have used Propionate. This system would have worked, and I would be PCT'ing faster. But I'm not gonna waste my stuff, I paid for it.

Any advice on this? Ronnie's busy, and he doesn't have time.

[big_ron]

Switch to use prop now

[SomeRandomGuy]

Yeah, I'll see if I can't get some. Hopefully it'll be in time. That way I could just save the Enanthate for the beginning of next cycle.

Oops, doesn't solve my Nandrolone Decanoate ester problem, though. I'm running that alongside my Test E. I think there's a shorter ester version of Deca, I forget what it is. Maybe it was Tren I was thinking of.

Just realized that doing a 2 week deload/cruise at the end of the 20 weeks (week 19-20) doesn't make sense. Now it makes a lot of sense if you're just going to stay on forever, and I believe that's what this system was designed for. In fact, he states that there's no reason to ever come off. I'd either go 18 weeks or 20 weeks, but I'll probably just go 18.

I'm gonna be shut down bad enough as it is. No sense going for the 20...

Thx for the help.

[bjpennnn]

keep us posted on how this goes man.

[hugoboss]

NPP is short estered deca

[Bonaparte]

Just run a normal 12 week cycle if you don't have short esters. Problem fixed

[sfour_tay]

X2 on the prop and npp

[dirtybrd]

Im on T500 and am wondering if Ronnies program would work for me. In theory if I just stopped pinning for those 2 weeks the short ester T would lower while the long ester T would stay?

[SomeRandomGuy]

Problem. I don't know where to get Nandrolone Phenylpropionate. I brew my stuff up, and they don't supply that. I'd have to find out where to get it, and I'm loathe to try new places when the one I use works. In answer to ^^^^, yeah. The long esters aren't going to drop from just stopping for 2 weeks. At least not DURING those 2 weeks by any significant amount.

[dirtybrd]

But the shorts would. So effectively I'd have half the amount of test as my on levels. Does anyone think it'd be worthwhile for me?