First cycle ANOTHER ONE

[gnccracer291]

This is going to be my first real cycle. I did a cycle of dbol only back in the day
looking to gain lean mass.

24 years old
195lbs
around 17bf
max bench is 3 plates

I follow the Arnold diet and workout program. Had good luck on it so far.

what do you think dbol and test?

[HawaiianPride.]

height
training experience
goals with this cycle
planned pct
planned ancillaries

[Dont wanna be old]

This is going to be my first real cycle. I did a cycle of dbol only back in the day
looking to gain lean mass.

24 years old
195lbs
around 17bf
max bench is 3 plates

I follow the Arnold diet and workout program. Had good luck on it so far.

what do you think dbol and test?

If your having success why fix it ?

[gnccracer291]

height 5 11
Training 3 years.
pct clomid
and just and case nova on the side.

What kind of gains could i expect on Test only? or sus?

[gnccracer291]

Dont want to be old. The real success comes with test!

[gnccracer291]

and diet lol

[boxin23]

Dont want to be old. The real success comes with test!

Test is not going to help that....we ALL get old even sly on 10ius of HGH a day....haha. Wrong compound for that statement.

[tembe]

Test is not going to help that....we ALL get old even sly on 10ius of HGH a day....haha. Wrong compound for that statement.

sly dusnt age.. haha

nah but srsly ur bf is too high to "gain".. do you want to end up +20%??

[boxin23]

sly dusnt age.. haha

nah but srsly ur bf is too high to "gain".. do you want to end up +20%??

to the OP ...there is your answer....at least one relly good one.

[gnccracer291]

HAHA I was talking to the user DONT WANNA BE OLD! ha

What should be a good target bf before first cycle?

[stpete]

When someone tells me that their max bench is "3 plates", i get nervous about their age and training experience....

[gnccracer291]

why?

[Dont wanna be old]

HAHA I was talking to the user DONT WANNA BE OLD! ha

What should be a good target bf before first cycle?

Stpete said he is nervous when someone mentions 3 plates .
I think he is a seasoned veteran of the gym and when people in his crowd talk they mention total lift of there combined bench/squat/dead .
But I cant speak for him . A casual gym goer usually visits the bench weekly if not more and not much else .

As to your question , This board has a consensus of 12% BF . For a couple reasons
1. Shows dedication to Diet and Exercise .
2. Less chance of estrogen related sides .

Keep doing research and stay strong
Dont wanna be old

[jojomcgo]

why?

Because it shows a lack of training and even basic bb knowledge, example you say your max is 3 plates?? 3 plates of what??? 45's 35's lol see what they mean?

[blastedlooger]

I'm pretty sure everyone who has been in sports and trains knows a plate is 45 lbs. Quarter- 25lbs Dime-10lbs Nickel-5lbs Penny- 2.5 lbs, 35 is just 35. I wouldn't use that if I was trying to list stats on a forum but might use that with friends. "I'm trying to get up to 3 plates on bench." for instance.