First cycle ANOTHER ONE

**gnccracer291** · 10-10-2010, 08:17 AM

This is going to be my first real cycle. I did a cycle of dbol only back in the day
looking to gain lean mass.

24 years old
195lbs
around 17bf
max bench is 3 plates

I follow the Arnold diet and workout program. Had good luck on it so far.

what do you think dbol and test?

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-10-2010, 08:20 AM

height
training experience
goals with this cycle
planned pct
planned ancillaries

**Dont wanna be old** · 10-10-2010, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by gnccracer291

This is going to be my first real cycle. I did a cycle of dbol only back in the day
looking to gain lean mass.

24 years old
195lbs
around 17bf
max bench is 3 plates

I follow the Arnold diet and workout program. Had good luck on it so far.

what do you think dbol and test?

If your having success why fix it ?

**gnccracer291** · 10-10-2010, 06:15 PM

height 5 11
Training 3 years.
pct clomid
and just and case nova on the side.

What kind of gains could i expect on Test only? or sus?

**gnccracer291** · 10-10-2010, 06:16 PM

Dont want to be old. The real success comes with test!

**gnccracer291** · 10-10-2010, 06:16 PM

and diet lol

**boxin23** · 10-10-2010, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by gnccracer291

Dont want to be old. The real success comes with test!

Test is not going to help that....we ALL get old even sly on 10ius of HGH a day....haha. Wrong compound for that statement.

**tembe** · 10-10-2010, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by boxin23

Test is not going to help that....we ALL get old even sly on 10ius of HGH a day....haha. Wrong compound for that statement.

sly dusnt age.. haha

nah but srsly ur bf is too high to "gain".. do you want to end up +20%??

**boxin23** · 10-10-2010, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by tembe

sly dusnt age.. haha

nah but srsly ur bf is too high to "gain".. do you want to end up +20%??

to the OP ...there is your answer....at least one relly good one.

**gnccracer291** · 10-11-2010, 01:57 PM

HAHA I was talking to the user DONT WANNA BE OLD! ha

What should be a good target bf before first cycle?

**stpete** · 10-11-2010, 03:16 PM

When someone tells me that their max bench is "3 plates", i get nervous about their age and training experience....

**gnccracer291** · 10-13-2010, 02:53 PM

why?

**Dont wanna be old** · 10-13-2010, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by gnccracer291

HAHA I was talking to the user DONT WANNA BE OLD! ha

What should be a good target bf before first cycle?

Stpete said he is nervous when someone mentions 3 plates .
I think he is a seasoned veteran of the gym and when people in his crowd talk they mention total lift of there combined bench/squat/dead .
But I cant speak for him . A casual gym goer usually visits the bench weekly if not more and not much else .

As to your question , This board has a consensus of 12% BF . For a couple reasons
1. Shows dedication to Diet and Exercise .
2. Less chance of estrogen related sides .

Keep doing research and stay strong
Dont wanna be old

**jojomcgo** · 10-13-2010, 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by gnccracer291

why?

Because it shows a lack of training and even basic bb knowledge, example you say your max is 3 plates?? 3 plates of what??? 45's 35's lol see what they mean?

**blastedlooger** · 10-13-2010, 05:41 PM

I'm pretty sure everyone who has been in sports and trains knows a plate is 45 lbs. Quarter- 25lbs Dime-10lbs Nickel-5lbs Penny- 2.5 lbs, 35 is just 35. I wouldn't use that if I was trying to list stats on a forum but might use that with friends. "I'm trying to get up to 3 plates on bench." for instance.