What stack would you recommend for a first timer?

**tryingitout** · 10-15-2010, 08:33 AM

Here are my stats:
Age 21
Height 5'10"
Weight 170
Bodyfat- 10% maybe? I can see my abs

I want to put on about 10 pounds of lean muscle and am dedicated to keeping a strict workout regimen and diet. I have a friend who can get me almost anything, including tren ace, test E, dbol , and anavar .

What should I take? I also plan to do post cycle therapy

**Solomon** · 10-15-2010, 08:39 AM

No one will recomend you a stack for your first cycle mate.
A cycle of Test E at 500mg/week is all you need to grow tons and to see how your body handles the compound.
Also at 21 you still may risk damaging your endocrine system, I know you will most probably still cycle anyway but waiting a few years would be best.
At 5'10 170lbs you have plenty of growing to do naturally.

**vettewreck** · 10-15-2010, 08:43 AM

Agreed. First timer cycle should be 1 compound. Test-e 500mg/wk 1-10. Keep it simple to see how your body responds to chemicals.

**MaNiCC** · 10-15-2010, 08:44 AM

Plenty of growth can be achieved naturally. All you need is a good quality diet and a decent workout routine. I strongly advise against aas with your current stats and age.

**SlimmerMe** · 10-15-2010, 08:45 AM

You'll get bigger starting with a good natural base.

WELCOME! lots to learn here. Not worth messing with your endocrine system for now. Too risky for ED and premature Andropause .

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-15-2010, 08:48 AM

Welcome to the boards.

Post your diet, stats, and goals in the nutrition section and have the boys critique it. Same with your training habits. These 2 need to be addressed given your current stats. Spend a few more years getting a grasp of what proper training and nutrition can do for a young guy like yourself. Take advantage of this opportunity to make some quality natural growth in order to build the proper foundation before you start cycling in a few years.

**Subotai** · 10-15-2010, 08:49 AM

Don't run a cycle yet. Wait until you are older and at your height.... I'd say 200lbs at least.

When you do cycle though I agree that it should only be 1 compound.... best way to see how you react. 400-500mg of test a week for 10-12 weeks should be perfect

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-15-2010, 08:50 AM

^Why advise him on a cycle if you feel he isn't ready?

**ghettoboyd** · 10-15-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by MaNiCC

Plenty of growth can be achieved naturally. All you need is a good quality diet and a decent workout routine. I strongly advise against aas with your current stats and age.

agreed...all the aas in the world wont do much without a good diet...learn to grow natty through diet and training so when you do cycle youll have a better chance to succede in whatever your goal is...you have your whole life to get big why risk future damage to yourself?...bbing is a marathon not a sprint...

**MaNiCC** · 10-15-2010, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

^Why advise him on a cycle if you feel he isn't ready?

Agreed. If someone is given advice when they are not ready, they will choose to listen to the advice they want to hear

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-15-2010, 08:53 AM

It baffles my mind when someone starts off good, then shits their post down the drain with "but when you are ready, do a cycle like this..."

It's like, really? You just gave the guy the answer he was looking for AFTER you stated that he isn't cycle ready. Hypocritical at best.

**ghettoboyd** · 10-15-2010, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by HawaiianPride.

It baffles my mind when someone starts off good, then shits their post down the drain with "but when you are ready, do a cycle like this..."

It's like, really? You just gave the guy the answer he was looking for AFTER you stated that he isn't cycle ready. Hypocritical at best.

you know how it is HP the new peeps are eager to show/parrot there knowledge for whatever reason....

**SlimmerMe** · 10-15-2010, 08:56 AM

^^ no kidding...my thoughts precisely Hawaiian

**vettewreck** · 10-15-2010, 09:10 AM

My bad guys, I dont mean to steer people in the wrong direction but seeing the same posts over and over again and after telling them the to wait ect, ect, they argue and we all know are going to go get it anyways. Might as well give them "some" type of guidance. But I agree with what you guys are saying overall. I appologize.

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-15-2010, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by vettewreck

My bad guys, I dont mean to steer people in the wrong direction but seeing the same posts over and over again and after telling them the to wait ect, ect, they argue and we all know are going to go get it anyways. Might as well give them "some" type of guidance. But I agree with what you guys are saying overall. I appologize.

I didn't even see your posts, I was referring to another member but yes your post is an example. They are better off with either the right guidance, or no guidance at all.

I've delt with guys that blow off whats best for them over several boards over the years. The best thing to do is keep doing what you've been doing and preach to them over and over what you know is right and not what they want to hear. Because the flood of noobs are never going to stop unless you restrict yourself from being a apart of any bodybuilding community.