EQ + WINNY and etc for triple cycle maybe

[tasko]

Hello All,
I am a long time lurker, first time poster on this board.
I am training from 10 years with a lots of breaks. This year i've trained very hard.
I am 32 years, 5.9" (178 cm.) and 205 lb ( 93 kg.) My bF is around 17% now. It was 14% four months ago.
I am planning to start cutting, lean diet with carb cycle with
a long cycle, let's say about min 8 weeks.
I've based it on what i've seen from other similar posts, though I couldn't find anything specific.
It is something like that:
week 1-4 WINNY 2 ml. (100 mg.) in every 48 hours
EQ 2 ml. ( 400 mg.) three times in a week
day 1-WINNY 2 ml.,EQ 2 ml.
day 2- X
day 3-WINNY 2 ml.,EQ 2 ml.
day 4- X
day 5-WINNY 2 ml.
day 6- X ,EQ 2 ml.
day 7-WINNY 2 ml.
For the second part i am planing:
FINA, Masteron and Winny on tabs.
week 5-8 Winny tabs 50 mg. every day
FINA 2 ml. ( 150 mg.) in every 48 hours
Masteron 2 ml. ( 200 mg.) in every 48 hours

I'm interested to know, what do you thing about my idea ?
And what about the dosage and PCT ?
That is my third cycle in my life ( second for this year)

[HawaiianPride.]

Welcome.

What's your diet like? Macros n' such.
When did you end your last cycle? Did you PCT and get blood work?
I don't agree with your plan due to the compounds you've chosen but answer the above and we'll see if we can fix it.

[tasko]

Hello HawaiianPride !
Thank you very much for your answer.
I am mesomorph endomorph
Аccording to Harris-Benedict my BMR is 2000 kkal with activity level 1.6, so it is 3200 and 10% for half lean mass, half cutting it's 3500 kkal.
I need 3.3 gr./ kg. protein, so this is 300 gr./a day= 1200 kkal
Normal carbs for a day=protein= 300 gr./a day
I have two ideas for my meal diet.
Version 1 carb cycling:
High carb day: carbs= 1.25*normal carbs
Normal carb day: protein=carbs
Low carb day: 0.75*normal carbs

Version 2 carb cycling:
High carb day: carbs at max, fats at min
Normal carb day: carbs kkal=fats kkal
Low carb day: protein 450 gr., carb= 100 gr., fats=140 gr.

The cycle info is:
Day 1- High carb, workout- chest, triceps
Day 2- Low carb, cardio
Day 3- High carb, workout- back, biceps, abs
Day 4- Low carb, cardio
Day 5- Normal carb, workout- shoulders, traps
Day 6- High carb, workout-legs, lower back, glutes, abs
Day 7- Low carb, easy cardio

My last steroid cycle was ended on June this year. It was for 7 weeks with:
Oral-Turinabol- 50 mg every day
PROP- 2 ml. ( 200 mg) every 48 hours
Тhree days after last PROP i started Pregnyl 2000UI, and another 2 in every 48 hours.On second Pregnyl i started Clomifene citrate 50 mg every day and Proviron 25 mg a day for 10 days.On last day of Clomifene citrate I started Now tribulus 9000 mg a day for 30 days.
day 1- PROP , OT 50 mg
day 42- PROP , OT 50 mg - last day
day 45- Pregnyl 2000UI
day 47- Pregnyl 2000UI, Clomifene citrate 50 mg, Proviron 25 mg
day 49- Pregnyl 2000UI, Clomifene citrate 50 mg, Proviron 25 mg
day 50- Clomifene citrate 50 mg, Proviron 25 mg
day 57- Clomifene citrate 50 mg, Proviron 25 mg
day 58- Tribulus 9000 mg a day
day 88- Tribulus 9000 mg a day

I think that's all
Hope not bored you toomuch
Thanks again for the help!

[tasko]

[scotty51312]

8 weeks isn't a very long cycle. EQ is going to make you hungry all the time. Winstrol may help a little with the fatloss but not that much. I don't see any test in this cycle. That should be your base.

[tasko]

Thank for the reply.
I am planing to do 12 week cylce, but here is my point:
i'll start with 8 weeks and if everything is fine, i'll continue with another 4 week, and etc.
If something get mess, i'll start the pct and stop the cycle.
Did you think i need to add PROP or TEST or Testosterone Cypionate with Testosterone Enanthate ?
Or maybe something different ?

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

Test is test the only difference is the esters which basically means how comfortable are you pinning? If you like pinning ED or EOD I would go prop, if 2x a week is all you can handle for whatever reason go Ena or Cyp. Regardless of which you pick, as stated above, test should be your base. Otherwise you run the risk of being shutdown and having to deal with all the negatives that come with it.

[tasko]

Ok,
thanks for the reply.
Can you redraw the whole cycle, the way you think it should be?
Thanks in advance.

[marcus300]

The cycle is to complicated you need to keep it simple and if this is a cutting cycle you dont need that many compounds, your also missing one vital compound which is test, personally all you need to test if your cutting no need to do anything else, let the diet and carido do its job while the test is keeping you anabolic.

[tasko]

Thank you for the reply !
I've read a lot about cycle, about steroids and etc. Thank you that you make me read them
Now i understand how to plan my new cycle, diet and workout. The new idea is to make 12 week cycle for lean mass. Here is it:
week 1-6 ENTH 600 mg. ( devide in two doses)
week 6-12 ENTH 200 mg.
week 1-6 EQ 300 mg.- EOD
week 4-12 FINA 200 mg.- EOD
week 9-12 WINNY tabs 50 mg. ED
My idea is based on: I am lowering the ENTH levels on week 6 and leave it as maintance dosage preventing my body shut down.Stacking EQ with ENTH will give me mass and strength (keeping lower side effects). FINA will lower the water retention from ENTH and give lean mass with EQ.Winny at last weeks will cut something and help with the other water in my body.
That's all !

Hope that i am right this time ?
or i am not ...
My diet is changed to: carb cycle wtih modarate day: 4000 kkal with 45% protein, 35% carbs, 20% fats
The other suplements are: Protein Whey and matrix, BCAA, vitamins, creatine, Nitric Oxide, Liver support,Testosterone Boosters and etc.

[tasko]

anyone ? please ...

[jimmyinkedup]

how about this. If u are set on multi coumpoud - picking from the ones you mentioned. Test / tren / winny is one of my fav. cycles. EQ at that dose for that duration is essentially a waste imo _and i like EQ - which puts me in the minority (ask Marcus!)
I kind of like this:
Weeks 1-12 : 500mg test e
Weeks 7-14 : 450-600mgs (whatever u want using eod pin schedule ie: 150mg eod or 200mgs eod)
Weeks 7-14 : 350mgs winny (50mgs winny ed)

Stop tren/winny a few days short of the end of week 14 and then start pct.
You could even drop the test dose if u want and let the tren/winny combo do the work. If thats your decision - Test @ 250/week imo.
In all honesty Marcus is right - this is pretty complicated and unnecessarily so - if u are heart set on doing these compounds this is what i would do. Many would start the tren in beginning along with test - me personally - no. JMO...good luck

Another note - if u are gonna do tren ace - then you may just go with test prop ..pinning eod anyway. either way....if u go with prop run the straight 12 week cycle stop everything at the same time start pct a few days later.

Final Note - May even want to drop tren to only 100 mgs eod - your choice.

[tasko]

Hello jimmyinkedup !
I already lost hope to get more help.
Thank you for the reply
The truth about this compound is that I can only get them. My dealer have only: Winny injection and oral, Equipoise, Trenbolone Acetate, Masteron, Testosterone enanthate, Proviron /Mesterolone/. He is waiting a delivery with test prop and so on within 3 weeks, but i don't want to waste time . That's why i'm talking only about them. If you think I need to change the steroids, then I'll wait for the new delivery.
As you mention, I start to think about Test / tren / winny cycle.
Аccording to bottle, I need to modify the cycle.
Weeks 1-12 : 500 mg. test e (250 mg a pin on monday and thursday)
Weeks 7-14 : 450-600 mg. tren (one week 3*150 mg. EOD, one week 3*200 mg. EOD)
Weeks 7-14 : 350 mg. winny (50 mg. Winny ED)
Here's come some questions:
- may I change the oral winny ED, with injection 100 mg. EOD ?
- is the tren dose too high?
- the PCT should start on the third day after last tren dose, and should be around 3 weeks with clomid, tribulus and etc ?

Now I am thinking about something different. How it sounds to create one bulk short cycle this days (lets say till jan. then pct and rest till april), and another one (like the one we are talking) later in the year (around may)?
What do you think?
Thanks in advance! Have a nice weekend!

[tasko]

[RoidReaper]

Why do people make such complicated cycles? Seriously, its stupid. Get some damn test and throw another compound in with it and leave it at that, not run 800 fukin different things every 2 weeks. Its absurd.