2-Part Test, Deca, Dbol, Tren, Var cycle...

[BGIZZLE8629]

What's up everybody? Planning my next cycle or couple of cycles right now. Originally, I thought about doing an 18wk cycle, but after thinking it over and reading other material, I think I will do two 8wks cycles. The first cycle will be:

Test cyp 500mg 1-8
Deca 375mg 1-8
Dbol 30mg 1-4
Proviron 30mg 1-8
HCG 500iu E3Days in wk 8
Nolva and or Adex wk 1-8

"De-load" -- Test Cyp: Reduce to 250 or stay at 500mg 9-10

"Re-load" / 2nd 8wk Cycle
Test Cyp 500mg 1-8
Tren ace 165mg 3-8
Anavar 50mg 5-10
Proviron 30mg 1-10
HCG 500iu E3Days in wk 8
Nolva and/or Adex wk 1-10

(90) .25mg Adex on hand
Plenty 20mg Nolva on hand

Nolva 11-15: 40/40/20/20/20
Clomid 11-15: 100/100/50/50/50

I guess, in essence, it is an 18 wk cycle since I am running (2) 8wk cycle and Anavar up to PCT in the 2nd cycle. Either way you look at it, I decided to run it this way after reading a lot about how 8wk cycles are better and seeing Ronnie Rowland's post about the slinshot training. Week 9-10 of my first cycle would be my "de-load" and I would "re-load" with another 8 weeks cycle afterward. I chose to run the Tren at 165 for 6wks rather than 250 for 8wks (I have 2-1000mg vials).

Anyway, this will be my 6th cycle. I am 24, been training for about 6 years, 5'11" tall and about 207lbs. I think it is definitely worth noting that I have never used Anavar or Deca. I have heard great things about anavar in regard to the vascularity it may bring. Since it will be my first go 'round with it, I will keep the dose to 50mg/day... I have used EQ twice. The first time it was great, but the 2nd time it didnt seem as useful. So I have decided to try Deca since I've wanting to try it for a while anyway. I'm kind of worried about the possibility of progesterone related gyno though because I do not have cabergoline ---> I have read that the nolva/arimidex will not help much with prolactin/progesterone effects...is there any evidence that proves this theory? Before you ask, I also understand that tren can have similar progesterone activity.

A few thoughts... Would I be better off to run Clomid during cycle(s) and save the HCG until PCT? Also, is a 5wk (relatively aggressive) Nolva/Clomid PCT necessary if using HCG during the cycle?

Any advice/recommendations/suggestions/constructive criticism is welcome. I am aiming to start the cycle before December. Also thinking about making a log for it. Thanks in advance for all of your thoughts.

[Sicko]

Oh boy here we go......=]

[Sicko]

I think you might be misunderstanding Ronnies slingshot theory..I know that two weeks is not near enough time for your body to recover to run another 8 week cycle..IMO YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER DAMN NEAR EVERY PART OF YOUR PLAN.Sounds like you are headed for a trainwreck with all the compounds you plan on using without proper time off and proper PCT.
I am no one to help you put your dream cycle together, but I can tell you that the one you have planned, is wrong.
You will do major damage to yourself if you continue on this course without more understanding.

[BGIZZLE8629]

I'm pretty sure he says that you should reduce or eliminate gear for 2 weeks, then do another blast and reload. I may be wrong....can you tell me what's wrong with my "dream" cycle and enlighten me on what should be changed and/or what Ronnie means specifically rather than saying that I should reconsider everything because its wrong.....Just saying im wrong and will do damage doesnt help me much.

I understand that the two weeks in between cycles is not enough time to "recover" in regard to natural T production, but Ronnie stated that the two weeks gives receptors time to become basically unsaturated or clear and ready for more juice... If I should run the 1st 8wk cycle, then pct, then take a few months off that's fine with me. At least tell me why you are saying the things you are saying. Thanks bro

[BGIZZLE8629]

bump

[Sicko]

I cannot give u the answers that you are looking for but I can tell you that Ronnies program is for ADVANCED BB's not saying that you are not dedicated I dont know you from adam,I mean take a look at the guy...He is breaking down a program that involves a way of life way more advanced than the typical musclehead..Like I said I am not the one to give you cycle advice I am stating my opinion on what I see/read.IMO and I believe you will find most everyone will agree "TIME ON + PCT =TIME OFF" I am suprised that no one else has chimed in on your age vs. cycle exp. I am sure that one of the vets or mods will be able to help you with thier experience and knowledge.I would determine if all the other areas in my life were in check such as diet,sleep, supplements training etc.. before I implemented a program as advanced as the one that Ronnie breaks down..

[BGIZZLE8629]

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[BGIZZLE8629]

Well, I've decided to split my cycles up. I will do an 8wk cycle that looks like this:

Test Cyp 1-8 625mg
Deca 1-8 375mg
T-bol 1-4 50mg
Proviron 1-10 30mg
Anavar 7-10 50mg
Nolva 11-14 40/40/20/20
Clomid 11-14 100/100/50/50

I will wait until around May to begin this 8 week cycle:

Test Cyp 1-8 625mg
Tren Ace 1-8 250mg eod
Proviron 1-10 30mg
Anavar 6-10 50mg
Nolva 11-14 40/40/20/20
Clomid 11-14 100/100/50/50

I do have some arimidex handy for either cycle. I also have (2) 5000iu kits of HCG --> what would be the best way to utilize these for each cycle? Would it make sens to use it in wk 11 when starting the nolva? I believe I have read that hcg has estrogenic properties (kind of like clomid) so would I need to use an aromatase inhibitor like arimidex? Any other suggestions / comments about either cycle are welcome. Thanks a lot