first cycle again

**ricky888** · 10-19-2010, 10:16 AM

alright so lets start out with stats im 5'11 and just starting on cutting diet. i went from 202 to 195 in past few weeks. i want to do my first cycle to really achieve the lean muscle gain and look more cut. ive read alot past few months, alot fo first cyclers just stick with test e for the whole duration at around 500 a week. i was wondering if primo/test e would be a decent first cycle given dosages are right. i dont want winny for cutting because my shoulder hurts when joints get drier from previous PHs. any advice? this cycle will start mid december and ill keep a detailed log for future reference.

**sigman roid** · 10-19-2010, 10:19 AM

Whats your age?

Bf%?

**ricky888** · 10-19-2010, 05:44 PM

im 23. worked out for 5 years. 3 strictly. im currently around 11%

**big_ron** · 10-19-2010, 05:50 PM

Test e or c @500mg per week for 10 weeks, even @400mg you will get awesome results because it is your 1st cycle

Pct Clomid 100/50/50/50
Nolva 40/40/20/20

Have L-dex on hand for gyno

**ricky888** · 10-19-2010, 05:53 PM

if i keep up with cardio will i shred fat while growing? or maintain the fat i have and just get lean muscle to get the cut look? im not fat but more cut would be great.

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-19-2010, 06:13 PM

Any test will shed adipose tissue while increasing LBM, so yes to your question. In conjunction with a diet tailored to your goals, this effect will obviously be enhanced.

I would start at 350mg PW. This is still several times what your body naturally produces and will be enough.

**ricky888** · 10-19-2010, 06:33 PM

i know theres been tests done but i was wondering from users perspective if theres differences between EOD/ED/biweekly injections?

**HawaiianPride.** · 10-19-2010, 06:44 PM

For me, yes there was a difference in how uniform my blood pressure was. In terms of gains and other side effects, no difference.

**ricky888** · 10-19-2010, 07:01 PM

so you dont think its worth it for me to get primo even at high dosage for effectiveness? and which test would you say is best? test e for beginning cycle?