Running test e at a low dose.

[bruary17]

This will be my first cycle.

Age 31
Weight 175
Training for 15 years
Looking for 10-12lbs dry muscle with MINIMAL sides

I eat pretty lean and in check, most of my meals consist of chicken, oatmeal, brown rice, steak, pork, sweet potatoes, ON shakes, whole wheat pasta.

Tore my left rotator cuff in April 2010, but before that was a solid 188, strong lean and healthy. I lost close to 20lbs due to injury and lack of training. I'm coming back with vengance and test e in my corner. Going to run it 250mg 10-12 weeks. Since I'm running a single compound at such a low dose would both nolva AND clomid be necessary or would just clomid suffice? And my training is hard with 9+ hours of sleep a night. Also, is 10-12lbs a reasonable expectation? And I'm looking to KEEEEEEP it!

[bruary17]

Anybody? Bueller?.........Bueller?..........Bueller?

[Ashop]

I would use a small amount of AI and use the CLOMID/NOLVA for PCT.

[D7M]

How tall are you? Body fat?

I'd run a minimum of 300mg/wk, and yes clomid/nolva for PCT.

[bruary17]

I'm 6'0
Not sure of BF. If I wer'e to guess 15%

[BIG NICE]

What type of AI would be advised on this type of cycle?

[cro]

just run nolva at 10 mg during cycle everyday

[bruary17]

just run nolva at 10 mg during cycle everyday

I plan on clomid as well, is it not nesessary?

[bruary17]

I would use a small amount of AI and use the CLOMID/NOLVA for PCT.

Whats a small amount please, ****? I may also jump up to 300mg rather than the 250.

[matt77]

Nolva and Clomid are used for your PCT. Nolva is sometimes ran during a cycle for people that get gyno easily but I would just stick with an AI for during cycle. Aromasin is the best AI out there IMO. If you get it from the site sponsor AR-R you can dose it lower or higher if need because its liquid. 12.5mg daily is where I would start.

[Bonaparte]

I wouldn't run less than 350mg if you're relying on the test for size and strength gains.
I used 400mg for my first cycle and it was awesome.
250mg will give results, but may be a letdown. 400mg is sure to please.

[cro]

i am going to run 300mg test e/ 10 mg of nolva before bed everynight this is my first cycle i want no chance of gyno...... im 37 5'9 190 our builds look similar..im at 16% bf i think you are at about 14 or even a little lower

[bruary17]

I wouldn't run less than 350mg if you're relying on the test for size and strength gains.
I used 400mg for my first cycle and it was awesome.
250mg will give results, but may be a letdown. 400mg is sure to please.

I have heard this elsewhere as well, (400mg to see good results) After all, I am doing this to gain some quality weight. what were your gains like and how long did you run it? Thank you!

[bruary17]

i am going to run 300mg test e/ 10 mg of nolva before bed everynight this is my first cycle i want no chance of gyno...... im 37 5'9 190 our builds look similar..im at 16% bf i think you are at about 14 or even a little lower

According to all the info I'm getting, we may ned to run our cycles a little higher, (400mg) I completely understand what you're about the no gyno, I feel the same. But I really want 10-12 pnds of muscle during this.

[cro]

your receptors are clean 300 mg ive got a lot of good feed back on this because i was going to stack with 300 mg of eq also ,and was told test only 1rst cycle

[Bonaparte]

I have heard this elsewhere as well, (400mg to see good results) After all, I am doing this to gain some quality weight. what were your gains like and how long did you run it? Thank you!

I ran 5g total, so it was 400mg/week for 11 weeks with a double-dose for the first week as a frontload. My best gains came during weeks 4-8. I gained 15lbs on cycle even while using Adex and leaned out a bit (185 to 200lbs). I lost 5 lbs during PCT, but that's to be expected.

[hankdiesel]

you'll see gains off that cycle but nothing to dramatic. save the nolva for pct and take it with clomid.

[bruary17]

Alright, I'm a little confused. cro, your saying since this will be my first cycle...and my receptors are clean...300mg for 10-12 weeks would bring me the results I'm looking for? (10-12lbs)

Bonaparte, you jabbed 400mg in yourself twice on two seperate occasions for the first week? Is that recommended?

Hank, I was all set on running the nolva and clomid 3 weeks after my last shot, from what I've read, this is pretty much protocol. How and why run my test e with clomid?

[cro]

i rst cycle you can run test low dose ive got a ton of info on this.ive been fishing on here for a year but im a noob just like you. we have not had an aas in our system yet .kind of like a person getting drunk that first time.then its never the same. lets add to friends and cycle together im in upstate 2

[Bonaparte]

Bonaparte, you jabbed 400mg in yourself twice on two seperate occasions for the first week? Is that recommended?

Hank, I was all set on running the nolva and clomid 3 weeks after my last shot, from what I've read, this is pretty much protocol. How and why run my test e with clomid?

You should start PCT 12-14 days after your last shot.
And I just did 2 pins of 400mg the first week, rather than 2 shots of 200mg. It's called a frontload and it basically allowed the test to kick in a week sooner.

[bruary17]

Oh, cool! cro, didn't even see that you were in upstate as well. I have no idea how to add to friends but I'm all for it. I'm in Syracuse.

And thanks for clearing that up bonapart.

[cro]

im in rochester. you just click my name add to friends and you can click your name to edit your profile and stuff like that