my first cycle( yes, another one of those posts )

[vk2]

Hey guys, long time reader of the forum, finally decided to make an account

i'm 6'3 and around 200, i've been lifting for almost three years now.

for my first cycle i don't want to go over board,
ive read that a 350mg of test e might be perfect for me.
but i would like to add another compound, this is where i need ya'll advice

i've narrowed my choices down to mdrol or equipoise .


of course i will have my PCT ready, Nolvadex- 20 mg a day, immediately following my 10 week cycle

[bjpennnn]

Stick to this man

Test Beginner Cycle Guide
Written by Phate
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=355742

Stick to one compound for your first cycle. all the info you need there. Good luck on your cycle.

[DKbuilder]

Well, if you're a long-time reader of this forum, don't you think you should post your age as well? Just a suggestion. Other than that, I think that you could fill out a 6'3 frame if you worked out for more years. 3 years are not much to be honest with you.

[zaneisgreat]

Consider upping your dosage to around 500mg/week.

Test is cheap. Test is effective. Sides @ this dosage don't give many people that much problems.

I wouldn't advise running EQ for less than 12 weeks.

[HawaiianPride.]

Well, if you're a long-time reader of this forum, don't you think you should post your age as well? Just a suggestion. Other than that, I think that you could fill out a 6'3 frame if you worked out for more years. 3 years are not much to be honest with you.

Well said.

Consider upping your dosage to around 500mg/week.

Test is cheap. Test is effective. Sides @ this dosage don't give many people that much problems.

I wouldn't advise running EQ for less than 12 weeks.

Before we offer advice, it would be in the best interest to hold back on the steroid advice until we get a little more information on his stats.

And why do you suggest 500mg? 350mg is still several times what the body naturally produces, and is certainly capable of bringing gains.

[sfour_tay]

first off what your bf and age??

and what is your goal???

[vk2]

Well, if you're a long-time reader of this forum, don't you think you should post your age as well? Just a suggestion. Other than that, I think that you could fill out a 6'3 frame if you worked out for more years. 3 years are not much to be honest with you.

haha good point! i'm 24

my frame isn't that big but its been a pain putting on weight over the past half year, i've been between 200-210 for the last couple months, i might have low test levels so i'm thinking running a low dosage of test will kind of 'fill me out' as i should have already naturally.

i respect what ya'll are saying about sticking to just test for my first cycle, but for future reference if you had to choose between the two which would you prefer and why? I hear a lot of people use 30 medrol a week and are happy with it, but the other option also seems viable.

thanks guys

[vk2]

Well said.



Before we offer advice, it would be in the best interest to hold back on the steroid advice until we get a little more information on his stats.

And why do you suggest 500mg? 350mg is still several times what the body naturally produces, and is certainly capable of bringing gains.

yes, exactly my point, there is no point in going with 500mg, as the results for my cycle on 350mg would be more than sufficient. no need to over do it

i'm 24 and my bf is pretty low, i can see my upper abs but not my lower.

my goal is bulk up, not too worried about abs and what not, focusing mostly on gaining size in my upper and lower body.

my diet is in check, i'm a fiend when it comes to this stuff haha, diet is #1 as you all know so there is no need for me to say it ha

i'll be getting around 5000 cals and 300-350 g of protein

[vk2]

first off what your bf and age??

and what is your goal???

thank you for your advice on the PCT, thats exactly what i'm looking to do clomid was the one i was trying to find hehe

as for test e, like i said before i'm pretty set on 350-400 mg a day.

[HawaiianPride.]

haha good point! i'm 24

my frame isn't that big but its been a pain putting on weight over the past half year, i've been between 200-210 for the last couple months, i might have low test levels so i'm thinking running a low dosage of test will kind of 'fill me out' as i should have already naturally.

The best way to determine this would be blood work. No one can make a legitimate guess on what their test levels are. Symptoms and guesses can only say so much.

i respect what ya'll are saying about sticking to just test for my first cycle, but for future reference if you had to choose between the two which would you prefer and why? I hear a lot of people use 30 medrol a week and are happy with it, but the other option also seems viable.

M-drol and EQ are two totally different compounds and shouldn't even be compared IMO.

thanks guys

Bold.

[vk2]

Care to share how M-drol and EQ are totally different?

From what I read, M-drol has more 'kick' and EQ is more steady.

Both can be used during bulks,

All I asked for was your personal preference.

After reading trough the link that linked above once again, I've decided to do just that. I do however need to learn the difference between d-bol and m-drol. if anyone would care to save me some research time and educate a young buck like my self i'd appreciate it

[HawaiianPride.]

I've used M-drol 3 times. Once alone, then the rest stacked with other CEL products.

Gains were quick, strength was through the roof but nothing compared to Test or the original S-drol, weight gains were so-so, liver enzymes were fuked.

Never ran EQ alone so I can't say what it's capable of doing on a standalone level. With Test, it helped with my endurance. That's about it. The test severely overpowered it. Liver enzymes checked out more uniform on a 2 compounded injectable cycle than any PH I've ever done.

You are right, they can be used in any cycle. But the S-drol clone is on another level as far as toxicity and strength gains go when compared with EQ.

[sfour_tay]

If your going to bulk all the eq would be good for is the increased appetite.

I would just kick Start the cycle with some
Dbol. Say 30-40mg Ed for the first 4 weeks.

Gl.

[vk2]

Whats this S-drol you're talking about? I thought we were talking about m-drol and d-bol?

[vk2]

If your going to bulk all the eq would be good for is the increased appetite.

I would just kick Start the cycle with some
Dbol. Say 30-40mg Ed for the first 4 weeks.

Gl.

This is what i'm leaning towards.

[junkiescumbag]

Whats this S-drol you're talking about? I thought we were talking about m-drol and d-bol?

superdrol

[HawaiianPride.]

Whats this S-drol you're talking about? I thought we were talking about m-drol and d-bol?

M-drol is a generic clone of S-drol.