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    Just keeping it simple, please critique cycle test, dbol, winnie

    age 23.5
    weight 200lbs
    height 5'11"
    bf 11-12
    diet- 4500-5000 cals/day 300-350g protein/day
    previous cycles with test e, test c, deca, winnie, dbol

    I want to keep this cycle simple and not include any deca due to sides.
    i was thinking test e or c, dbol, and winnie with adex and hcg during and clomid/nolva pct.

    Proposed cycle:
    500mg test wk 1-12
    20-40 mg dbol ed wk 1-4
    25-50 mg winnie ed wk 8-12
    1.5 mg adex eod wk 1-12
    ???? iu hcg ?????

    pct: clomid and nolva

    goal is to gain 15lbs of lean muscle and keep bf same or decrease by 1-2%

    i need opinions on doses of dbol, winnie, and hcg. i have used hcg post cycle but never on cycle so i need to know when to begin and how much. i just know 2.5 iu 2x a week, but when does that start?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Looks ok, but would like to know previous cycle info. As for hcg run it from day 1 at 200-250ius twice weekly (total of 400 or 500 ius weekly), and stop the last day of pin, some people go all the way through pct but I prefer not too. As for dbol that is a compound that is user dependent, if you haven't used it before, start at 20 or 25 mg ed, guage from there what you wanna do with it. As for Winnie, I would suggest 50mg ed. Some might tell you more, some less. 50mg ed is good for first time use.

    What compounds have you used before, and at what dosage??

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    prev history: dbol test.. test deca.. test deca winnie...
    i have used both dbol and winnie.. so im prob going to do dbol at 40 mg ed and winnie at 50mg ed. is 100mg too high? also, i know hcg is only good for 30 days in a refridgerator, my bottle is too big to split up, will i be ok using it for 90 days?

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    sorry forgot doses..
    dbol 20mg test 500mg... test 500mg... test 400mg deca 400mg winnie 50mg..

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    does anybody else concur with this cycle? i am doing blood work on thursday and getting my order together.. just need last minute tweaks

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    so here's my final draft...
    Test E 500mg/wk x 12wk
    DBol 50mg/wk x wk 1-4
    Winnie 100mg/day (undecided if i want to run throughout cycle or just wk 9-12) opinions pls
    Arimidex .5mg-1.5mg eod x wk 1-12
    HCG 200iu 2x/wk x wk 1-12

    PCT wk 15-18
    Clomid 100 50 50 50
    Nolva 40 20 20 20

    i am still undecided about adex and winnie dosing but i will order the more amount so im not short.
    please give a final critique

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    cutting is diet dependant, and that cycle is not keeping it simple. why not just run the test at the 500mg,drop the d-bol(eat clean,gain clean) d-bol will more than likely bloat you not allowing you to accurately guage your wieght gain( lean to fat ratio)
    if you feel the need to use the winni throw it in at the end to reduce water and harden up, i have no interest in winni so just my2c. reduce calories to 500-750 over maintenance (4500-5000 is a lot with your stats) and run a strong cardio program 45min to an hour 4-5x pw. hcg at the start 250iu x 2 pw and the a-dex .25 ed and adjust if needed.
    i know i probably gonna get bashed because of your age, but being you have done 1 previous cycle, your gonna do this 1 as well (i know bad ideoligy-check spelling) but if i cam offer advice to help minimise damage all the better? (please dont beat me up too bad guys)

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    forget the winny

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    thanks guys. I like winnie so i am prob only going to use it at the end. as for adex, i already have 1.5 mg capsules and really would rather not purchase something i already have so what can i do with 1.5? e3d? e4d? I def want to run it because i am very prone to gyno.

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