first full AAS cycle

[bdzemske]

hey guys,

ok so here it goes. I have taken about 5 or 6 PH cycles in the past. but i the only AAS cycle i have ran was a solo Dbol cycle at 30mg for 5 weeks, with nolva/clomid for PCT. gains were great.

I now was able to get my hands on teste/dbol/winny and the PCT to go along with my cycle.

i just wanted to take it slow because it is my first total cycle so i was just wondering what you guys thought i should do.

I have been researching like a mad man lately and i am finding different info everywhere. but here is what i was thinking:

Test e: wks 1-10 250 twice per week
Dbol: wks 1-5 50mg ed
Oral Winny: wks 7-11 50 mg ed
Nolva: wks 3-11 20mg ed

PCT:
Nolva: 40/40/20/20
Clomid: 100/50/50/25
starting wk 12

i also picked up some HCG but i have been seeing different info everywhere. i read that you shouldnt take it for more than 2-3 week with a 30 day break. but then i also saw ppl starting it like week three and taking it every 3-5 days total of 500iu a week. but i also read that it may not be needed with a shorter cycle like the one i have set up.

any imput would be great guys, thanks

[big_ron]

1st of all what are your stats?

A dbol only cycle was a bad idea, all cycles should be test based buddy!

Test E and dbol will be fine for your 1st cycle.

Dont run nolva during cycle, find an AI like a-dex or l-dex.

hcg run @ 250iu X 2 per week

This all depends on your stats so
Age
Weight
Height
Bf %

[bdzemske]

Age:
23

Height:
6ft

Weight:
Currently 236

Bf%:
12-13max

Well i researched i saw mixed views about it...some saying what you stated but then there were also individuals that said they had great resaults. i made sure to dose it kinda low and have a solid pct.

ok, i wanted to just harden up a bit toward the end of my cycle.

ill get on the AI.

for the hgc should i start it about week three then stop at week 10? then start my PCT week 12. it will be about 12-14 days after my last pin


i greatly appreciate you help

[SG2009]

goood luck

[big_ron]

Age:
23

Height:
6ft

Weight:
Currently 236

Bf%:
12-13max

Well i researched i saw mixed views about it...some saying what you stated but then there were also individuals that said they had great resaults. i made sure to dose it kinda low and have a solid pct.

ok, i wanted to just harden up a bit toward the end of my cycle.

ill get on the AI.

for the hgc should i start it about week three then stop at week 10? then start my PCT week 12. it will be about 12-14 days after my last pin


i greatly appreciate you help

Yes they may have got great results, but it is best to stick to 1 compound for your 1st cycle to see how you react, i wouldnt usually suggest dbol aswell, but since you have alread ran it, you would know how you react.
Start hcg week once and end 1 week before starting pct.

It seems you have done more reasearch than most do, and your stats seem fine. Altho the age is a bit of a consern but i cannot talk. but i still think its better to wait a yr.

[bdzemske]

thanks a lot, yeah i have researched alot on this site as well as just googled my cycle.

you dont think a jump from 30 to 50 will effect me much do you? like everything thing was working fine and all when i was dosing at 30. but i have 50mg tabs this time. just trying to avoid any sexual sides ya know.

[bdzemske]

if i cant afford to get adex at the moment, but i have tons of nolva on hand is it ok to just run 20mgs ed? i know an AI would be best but will a SERM be ok?