grr... get all gear BEFORE cycle

[kleaver]

so, my plan was to ramp up clen, starting 60mcg, increase 20mcg every 2-3 days till 140mcg. (2 weeks)

then taper down while on keto and hold at ~100mcg for another 2-4weeks on keto (100mcg has good BP and resting heart rate for me).

but i'm a doofus and didn't have the keto before i started, tried to get it from xxxxxx at the end of the first week, and it probably wont be in my hands in time.

moral of the story- have the shit before you start... good thing it was just clen and not a true cycle with wasted gear or gyno without AI/serm.

[MBMETC]

so you got everything and your g2g? keep me posted on you progress i may do a clen protocal after my test cycle and pct probably in feb or march, i was uder the impession when useing keto you do a 2 week on 2 week off with the clen allowing the keto down regulate receptors. i'll be impressed if you get to 140mcg everyone seems to shake pretty bad at 120mcg...
good luck

[kleaver]

nah- never got the keto- and today is the last day of my 2 weeks

the keto UPregulates the beta-2 receptors... so after about 1.5-2 weeks, start taking keto to keep the receptors upregulated- continue to use for as long as your cycle lasts.

2weeksON/OFF is used when there is no keto, b/c the 2 weeks off seems to be a good period of time to "clean" the receptors, or allow them to return to normal

i'm just an idiot for starting the clen cycle before I had the keto... expecting that i'd be able to get it before day 14. oh well. i'll just end this at 2weeks, and maybe do another keto/clen cycle for longer some other time

i found that i really peaked about 1week into the cycle- that's when my temp started dropping- so i probably should have used keto 1week in- i guess everyone reacts differently- probably why the 140mcg didn't bother me so much, b'c i was already pretty downregulated

[MBMETC]

what about uesing benedryl in place of keto and i believe ar-r at the top of the screen has keto

[Bonaparte]

So? It's just Clen.
Just do it 2 on 2 off.
And if you want to run it straight through with Ketotifen, you need to be taking the ketotifen from day 1, not just after 2 weeks. If you wait 2 weeks to start using it, you'll already be desensitized to the clen, and the keto isn't going to be enough.

[LouHulk]

what about uesing benedryl in place of keto and i believe ar-r at the top of the screen has keto

X2 Benedryl works for me....