How to get my balls back to size!!??

[99Mustang]

Hey guys I know there are tons of info but there are tons of different ways, or so I read.. My balls shrunk after a long 4 month cycle of test eth 500 mg a week n I should have read more on what I was doing cuz I used no nolva or clomid, no pct, no hcg lol everything wrong!! Yeah I kno pretty dumb.. But i've done research on how to use my cycles better. But before I start a new cycle I would like to fix myself first, I have nolva and clomid and 5000iu of hcg what is the best way to use my stuff to make my balls grow back? Any other info will b great too cuz I'm kinda confused on the whole thi g...

[DKbuilder]

You deserve to have balls like that because since you have not used your brain AT ALL.

[99Mustang]

I kno that not much help tho..

[BG]

Try running a strong pct, stay off gear. Bloodwork would be a good idea before and after pct .

[Bigdog99]

Start taking the NOLVA and Clomid now!

[99Mustang]

Thanks I'm Gonna start nolva n clomid today what mg u recomend

[BG]

Thanks I'm Gonna start nolva n clomid today what mg u recomend

You need hcg more then anything.

50mg ed clomid
25-35mg ed nolva
2500ius hcg every 3-4 day

4 weeks

[Johnyonemove]

You deserve to have balls like that because since you have not used your brain AT ALL.

Don't be rude bro.


To the OP: Best of luck to your're recovery! Please stay on the boards and get yourself informed about AAS before you consider cycling again!!!

[99Mustang]

I will for sure thanks for the info!!

[BIG NICE]

Small balls just make your cock look that much bigger! Haha, jk, but def try clomid/nolva and go to the doc. Usually they return fairly quick, but I have always done proper pct....

[V8Assassin]

I'm not sure running nolva and hcg at the same time is the best thing to do. If I remember correctly the combo redcues the effect of nolva for some reason and it is rec'ed to use aromisan with hcg. I will try to find the thread that discussed this...

[Viggo]

I'm not sure running nolva and hcg at the same time is the best thing to do. If I remember correctly the combo redcues the effect of nolva for some reason and it is rec'ed to use aromisan with hcg. I will try to find the thread that discussed this...

To the contrary, I've read that combining Nolvadex and HCG is recommended. It's Nolvadex which reduces effectiveness of Arimedex and Letro. Am I wrong?

[Viggo]

"It (Nolvadex) does not suppress LH, blocks desired estro receptors and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH. Nolva should be used during HCG therapy, at 20 mg a day, for the reason i just mentioned."

The above was cut and pasted from Drummerboy's sticky-thread in PCT forum, "PCT and Cycle Recommendations."

[1md21]

try nolva now??

[bodybuilder]

I would run nolva and clomid. Best of luck to you bro.

[V8Assassin]

"It (Nolvadex) does not suppress LH, blocks desired estro receptors and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH. Nolva should be used during HCG therapy, at 20 mg a day, for the reason i just mentioned."

The above was cut and pasted from Drummerboy's sticky-thread in PCT forum, "PCT and Cycle Recommendations."

Ah, you are correct sir. I couldn't remember the thread by drummer! Thanks for setting that straight for me. I read so much on here sometimes it runs together! That's great news for me, I am currently running hcg and was holding back on the nolva! Good deal! thanks again!!

[Bonaparte]

OP, how long ago did your cycle end?
I would hit the HCG hard for 10 days while beginning the SERMs, then keep running the SERMs for a total of 4-6 weeks.

HCG: 500 IU/day for 10 days. Start this now.
Clomid: 50mg/day for 5 weeks (but feel free to use 100mg/day if it doesn't give you too many side effects).
Nolva: 20mg/day for 6 weeks.

Wait 6 weeks after your last dose of Nolva, then go get bloodwork and see how your test levels look.

[gladmax]

Good luck man

[BG]

I would not use the HCG everyday, its widely believed to yeild better results every 3rd or 4th day.

STREET C, SCALLY MC. Pharmaceutical Intervention of Anabolic Steroid Induced
Hypogonadism - Our Success at Restoration of the HPG Axis. Medicine and Science in Sports
and Exercise 2000;32(5)Suppl.
High-dose anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) administration results in hypogonadotropic
hypogonadism (HH). Physical manifestations can include one or more of the following:
depression, decreased sexual desire, impotence, feelings of apathy, testicular atrophy, and loss of
muscle mass and strength. Due to feedback inhibition, laboratory values drop well below
established physiologic norms: luteinizing hormone (LH) >3.6 IU/L, follicle stimulating
hormone (FSH) >2.25 IU/L, and testosterone (T) >300 ng/dL. A search of the literature reveals
an absence of studies dealing specifically with AAS induced HH, and restoration of normal
endocrine function. We report on two interesting cases of AAS using bodybuilders who were
brought out of the hypogonadal state. Blood samples were taken in the morning for both subjects
and analyzed using chemiluminescence (Quest Diagnostics, Irvine, TX). Post-therapy samples
were taken 15 days after the last hCG injection. Case 1: 6'0" 206 lbs. 33 yr old Caucasian male
with a 10+ year history of steroid self-administration for bodybuilding and powerlifting. By his
own admission he was a "heavy" user, taking from 500 mg/wk to 2+ grams/wk. Pre-treatment
values: LH < 1.0 IU/L, T 191 ng/dL. One course of therapy (32 days) was given: 2,500 IU of
hCG every 4 days (8 injections total), 50 mg clomiphene bid and 10 mg tamoxifen qd. Despite
massive drug use patient was an exceptionally good responder. Post-treatment values: LH 5.2
IU/L, T 1072 ng/dL. Case 2: 5'10" 184 lbs 36 yr old Caucasian male with a 2 yr history of
continuous nandrolone use (200-400 mg/wk). Pre-values: LH < 1.0 IU/L, T 45 ng/dL. Treat 1
(32 days): 2,500 IU hCG every 4 d (8 total), clomiphene (50 mg bid) and arimidex (1 mg qd).
Post-values: LH < 1.0 IU/L, T 38 ng/dL. Treat 2 (60 days): 5,000 IU hCG every 4 days (4 inj
total) followed by 2,500 IU hCG every 4 d (4 inj total), clomiphene (50 mg bid) and tamoxifen
(10 mg qd). Post-values: LH > 1.4 IU/L, T 63 ng/dL. Treat 3 (32 days): 5,000 IU hCG qod (6 inj
total) followed by 2,500 IU hCG qod (6 inj total) given simultaneously with menotropins 150 IU
qod (6 inj total), clomiphene (50 mg bid) and tamoxifen (10 mg bid). Post-values: LH 9.8 IU/L,
T 507 ng/dL. Restoration of the HPG axis, even in severe cases of hypogonadism, is possible
with combined therapies and careful monitoring of the patient. With continued popularity of
these drugs, long-term androgen deficiency is a health concern for former AAS users. Further
research is needed in this area.

[Bonaparte]

Fine, spread it out and increase each dose.

[Tigershark]

Good luck man.

[eXtremist]

I'm really interested to know whats going to happen after your PCT.

[Stoneguy]

I get atrophy also after my 5th week of cycle! HCG every third day with 10mg ED of Nolva is how I ran it but I was running mine through out cycle! HCG and Nolva brought back my junk in about two weeks. I now will run HCG with my cycle starting week 4 for every future cycle I do. For more help or info check out member..SWIFTO on here

Are you still running your cycle? If not how long have you been off? You should have started your Nolva 17 days after your last pin of Test E.

Good luck! Do more reading up on here. Lots of good info! Blood work a good Idea also!

[Bonaparte]

Are you still running your cycle? If not how long have you been off? You should have started your Nolva 17 days after your last pin of Test E.

Where did you get 17 days from?
12-14 is a safer estimate.

[Stoneguy]

Where did you get 17 days from?
12-14 is a safer estimate.

good catch and my mistake! It was little early when I commented this morning LOL! I was thinking Test Cyp. Test E is 14 days