Minimum age for clen and t3

[sleep.eat.train]

Hey guys, long term lurker finally decided to join.

I am
20
5'10
185
14%
training for 5 years.

So before I even consider cycling I want my BF under 10%. I am not interested in cutting carbs out because that just keep me tired all day. I was recommended by a friend who is also a client of mine to look into clen and t3. My diet is in check and I do cardio 6 days a week, with 3 days dedicated to cardio where I do up to 75 mins of it. My BF was up at 21% and I have got it down to 14% with the use of caffeine and now I am looking for the next step.

So back to the question. I have always read that steroids should not be taken until 25, but never anything about clen to T3... Is there a minimum age for the use of clen or T3?

[marcus300]

Your around 4 yrs away from cycling so in this time research diets and implement a good cardio routine and drop your bf naturally, no need to use compounds yet just change around your diet and increase your cardio and shift your bf via hardwork, best of luck

[sleep.eat.train]

My diet may not be perfect but I like to eat food that tastes good which is still healthy. I am a second year nutrition major and a certified personal trainer, so for a 20 year old I like to think I know my fair share. But like I said I've dropped 7% with the use of caffeine just cant seem to get over this hump. So this is why I am wondering about the age for clen and T3. As for steroids, I have been researching for the past 2 years and will take them when I feel I am at the right stage to take them.. But for now I am looking to get under 10%. And I can't really do anymore cardio, I tried to up it before and was just too tired and my hockey games and practices.

[marcus300]

Post your diet up and cardio routine, if its not perfect that's were the problem area is with dropping more bf.

No need to use anything at this stage to drop bf, do it via diet,cardio and hardowork,

Like ive said your around 4 yrs away from using steroids

Best of luck

[sleep.eat.train]

Post your diet up and cardio routine, if its not perfect that's were the problem area is with dropping more bf.

No need to use anything at this stage to drop bf, do it via diet,cardio and hardowork,

Like ive said your around 4 yrs away from using steroids

Best of luck

My diet is not a consistent diet which I follow everyday. But I eat meat (fish, turkey, chicken) and some sort of carb source (whole wheat bread, potato, etc) during the day and lean beef with a salad at night. If we count the 2 protein shakes I have throughout the day, I eat 9 meals if not I eat 7 meals. Each shake I add acai extract and omega oils.

I do 20-30 mins of cardio after my workout (3 times a week) and another 45-75 mins of cardio or separate days (3 days a week).

This has all been working for me so far but for the last month I have not seen any progress at all. I even cut down on the fats in my diet but still no luck. I am not the kind of guy that guys to short cuts, otherwise I would have taken clen 6 months ago when I started my goal of being down to 10%. I am only resorting to this because nothing else works..

Also it might be worth mentioning that in my family I am by far the leanest individual and I dont even consider myself lean. Could genetics play a role in this at all?

[makelovenotwar21]

are you tracking your calories? It sounds like your diet is somewhat random. If you don't know how many calories you are eating you won't know if you are eating above or below maintenance.

[sleep.eat.train]

are you tracking your calories? It sounds like your diet is somewhat random. If you don't know how many calories you are eating you won't know if you are eating above or below maintenance.

My diet is somewhat random but still healthy I consume around 3500 cals on a typical day. I am very active and want to keep my energy up and also keep gaining lean muscle. Which is why I dont take my cals down to the 2000 range. I am currently eating just below maintenance because of the physical activity I do everyday. I am trying to lose fat not weight in general.

I still have not received an answer to my question, what is the minimum age to take clen and T3?

[MBMETC]

have you considered carb cycling, and maybe loose the potatos and go with brown rice or sweet potato. assuming you were talking about eating regular potatoe

[sleep.eat.train]

have you considered carb cycling, and maybe loose the potatos and go with brown rice or sweet potato. assuming you were talking about eating regular potatoe

Can you elaborate on the term carb cycling? I don't eat regular potato I eat sweet potato and occasional brown rice as well.. Sorry, should have made that more clear in my initial post.

[RoidReaper]

Listen man, you dont need T3 ill tell you that right now. Without the use of Anabolics, T3 will not ONLY shred fat off you, it will also eat muscle, water EVERYTHING. Youll be a twig.

I dont personally think clen is a bad idea, seeing that doses are safe. AND NO, stacking clen with T3 will not prevent the catabolic effects from T3, it would probably make it worse (Just in case you were going to ask that). I say lower your calories to 2500 and keep protein high and start doing cardio, I promise you will lose fat.

[MBMETC]

google it, but it is an effective way bodybuilders cut pre-contest. essentially it is like it sounds you cycle your carb intake throughout the week ie: heavy carb day, low carb day, and no carb day. however it is strict and must be followed to the letter
i just printed a detail method off another website if you turn on you private message i will pm you with the link

[sleep.eat.train]

Listen man, you dont need T3 ill tell you that right now. Without the use of Anabolics, T3 will not ONLY shred fat off you, it will also eat muscle, water EVERYTHING. Youll be a twig.

I dont personally think clen is a bad idea, seeing that doses are safe. AND NO, stacking clen with T3 will not prevent the catabolic effects from T3, it would probably make it worse (Just in case you were going to ask that). I say lower your calories to 2500 and keep protein high and start doing cardio, I promise you will lose fat.

My protein intake is considerably high I eat meat with every meal and 2 shakes throughout the day. I dont know why everyone keeps saying "start cardio" Ive been doing 6 days a week cardio for the past 6 months lollll. I dropped from 21 down to 14 and now looking to get even lower. I have heard doses of 50 for T3 would not eat muscle and help with protein synthesis while on clen. Is this wrong? Do you think I should just take the clen? I have both on hand but would rather use what is best for my goals and ultimately my body.

[sleep.eat.train]

google it, but it is an effective way bodybuilders cut pre-contest. essentially it is like it sounds you cycle your carb intake throughout the week ie: heavy carb day, low carb day, and no carb day. however it is strict and must be followed to the letter
i just printed a detail method off another website if you turn on you private message i will pm you with the link

Thanks for the info I will look into it for sure but Im not so sure about eating no carbs at all. I actually cant turn my PM on i believe I must get to a certain number of posts before it is turned on.

[RoidReaper]

Sorry didnt see you were already doing cardio. 6 days a week is alot. Regardless drop T3.

Whether or not Clen is or ISNT Anti-catabolic is still unproven, and even if it is, its still not enough to prevent catabolic properties of T3. Dont forget man, T3 is a thyroid hormone, itll eat whatever it can to get energy. And the first thing its gonna go for is muscle. I dont care how much protein your eating lol.

Clen is much easier on the muscle and effective if used properly. Keep clen doses 50-100mcg. Taper it up tho, start at 25mcg and slowly raise the dose, shit makes you shaky man, like you drank 11 cups of coffee lol.

Clen or Ephedrine, i find ephedrine more effective as it makes me sweat more.

[sleep.eat.train]

Sorry didnt see you were already doing cardio. 6 days a week is alot. Regardless drop T3.

Whether or not Clen is or ISNT Anti-catabolic is still unproven, and even if it is, its still not enough to prevent catabolic properties of T3. Dont forget man, T3 is a thyroid hormone, itll eat whatever it can to get energy. And the first thing its gonna go for is muscle. I dont care how much protein your eating lol.

Clen is much safer and effective if used properly. Keep clen doses 50-100mcg. Taper it up tho, start at 25mcg and slowly raise the dose, shit makes you shaky man, like you drank 11 cups of coffee lol.

Thanks a lot man I will wait a week or two and see if I can make any progress without anything. If no progress I will take clen starting at 20mcg(easier to measure) than go up in 20mcg increments until I hit 100mcg. I have heard 120, should I not go that high? I will also use benadryl my third week. I will take your word on the T3 and completely drop it, I don't really want to lose any muscle. I have actually seen people on clen and they couldn't even keep their hand still without having it shake lol. Thanks for all the info man.

[RoidReaper]

Thanks a lot man I will wait a week or two and see if I can make any progress without anything. If no progress I will take clen starting at 20mcg(easier to measure) than go up in 20mcg increments until I hit 100mcg. I have heard 120, should I not go that high? I will also use benadryl my third week. I will take your word on the T3 and completely drop it, I don't really want to lose any muscle. I have actually seen people on clen and they couldn't even keep their hand still without having it shake lol. Thanks for all the info man.

Yeah T3 is a no go without AAS.

Yeah no shit, Clen makes my eye twitch, shit is annoying and embarrassing lol. As for 120mcg, thats a bit high. Like i said start at 25 and slowly go up.

Im telling you tho, if you lower ur cals to 2500 and keep protein high, youll lose fat for sure.

[cherrydrpepper]

Listen dude on the clen I have used it personally. Let me tell you keep the doseage really low and do a lot of research. I had some abnormal heart activity while on it I believe it was rapid heart beat. I could actually sense that something wierd was going on with my body. So like I said be careful its no joke.

[sleep.eat.train]

Yeah T3 is a no go without AAS.

Yeah no shit, Clen makes my eye twitch, shit is annoying and embarrassing lol. As for 120mcg, thats a bit high. Like i said start at 25 and slowly go up.

Im telling you tho, if you lower ur cals to 2500 and keep protein high, youll lose fat for sure.

I have tried lowering calories before and I just went throughout the day feeling like shit. Thats the only reason I don't want to do that. It's not easy to get or even keep clients when your feeling like shit. I like to be full of energy which is why I dont cut out carbs and lower calories. But I will definitely look into gradually lowering until I get that shitty feeling.

[sleep.eat.train]

Listen dude on the clen I have used it personally. Let me tell you keep the doseage really low and do a lot of research. I had some abnormal heart activity while on it I believe it was rapid heart beat. I could actually sense that something wierd was going on with my body. So like I said be careful its no joke.

drpepper, what would you consider a low dose? Im not looking to go over 100mcg anymore anyways. My first thought was to keep tapering up until i feel the effects and the sides aren't unbearable. If I get that feeling your talking about I will stop immediately thanks for looking out!

[cherrydrpepper]

drpepper, what would you consider a low dose? Im not looking to go over 100mcg anymore anyways. My first thought was to keep tapering up until i feel the effects and the sides aren't unbearable. If I get that feeling your talking about I will stop immediately thanks for looking out!

I worked up to a 100 mcg ed then brough it back down to 50 mcg ed when I noticed a problem. I personally would not run more than 50 mcg a day; I was on a lot of other stuff too though.. test s4 dbol.. possible it wasn't just the clen giving me sides. I had hand shakes real bad. Some people looked at me like I was a junky or wierdo when they noticed. Tried not to use it on days I was going to socialize.

[sleep.eat.train]

I worked up to a 100 mcg ed then brough it back down to 50 mcg ed when I noticed a problem. I personally would not run more than 50 mcg a day; I was on a lot of other stuff too though.. test s4 dbol.. possible it wasn't just the clen giving me sides. I had hand shakes real bad. Some people looked at me like I was a junky or wierdo when they noticed. Tried not to use it on days I was going to socialize.

Oh wow that doesn't sound pleasant at all but the other compounds must have contributed to it somehow. Thanks for your input drpepper I will definitely keep all this in mind.