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    Tips for amp to vial transfer

    Can someone give me some advice on transferring 1ml amps of Test E into a 20ml vial?

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    Get the largest syringe possible and draw out the test from the vials, youll probably have like 3 amps per syringe. you'll have to do it a bunch of times depending on how many amps you have.

    Don't worry about injecting air into the vial the pressure will help the syringe fill quickly and with out air once your ready to inject.

    Dont use the same needle for your first pin, as the one you used for filling the vial will be very dull. Clean the vials top with alcohol every time you get ready to use.

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    Put another needle(just the needle) in the stopper, preferably off to the side, so it vents as you're putting your test into the vial.

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    well the pressure can be used to push the oil into the syrine he will use in the future. but if you dont want it just take the plunger out of the syringe when your all done.

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    ^^^ I don't understand what you are saying. It's common protocol to use a vent needle. And what "air" are you talking about? He should have the plunger completely buried to ensure best vacuum from the amps that he's withdrawing from.
    Now, if he doesn't have a vent needle, he won't be able to insert all his juice.
    And OP-After you fill your vial w/ all the juice, make sure when you withdraw for injection that you put the same amount of air in your syringe before you withdraw the test. Example: If i want 1cc of test, i will pull my plunger back to 1cc before putting the syringe in the vial. Then simply put the needle in the vial, push the plunger all the way down to get all the air out of it, then simply pull the plunger back to the desired fill amount.
    If you don't do this you will have a hard time withdrawing your juice towards the end of the bottle. It will get increasingly more difficult to draw your juice.

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    I'm also interested in transfering a dozen 1ml amps to a larger sterile vial... i did some searches and i read about filtering,boiling?! Do i need to worry about this when transfering from amps to a sterile vial?

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    ^^ No. Just draw them all up into a 20ml syringe using an 18g needle, the switch to a 21g syringe and inject it all into the vial (the vial should have a small vent pin in it as well).

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    My tip is dont do it. You will always loose some in the transfer, and you will only be wasting time you are now drawing and inj twice instead of once I dont see the logic?

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    x2 waste of time and gear

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    If you don't mind wasting a little gear you can use a filter needle to make sure you get any glass shards out of the mix.

    http://www.amazon.com/BD-Filter-Need.../dp/B0018QS0DO

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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    My tip is dont do it. You will always loose some in the transfer, and you will only be wasting time you are now drawing and inj twice instead of once I dont see the logic?
    You won't lose anything in the transfer, and you gain flexible dosing ability. Oh, and you know at the start of the cycle how much gear you have, rather than risk breaking a few amps down the road and coming up short with little warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    ^^ No. Just draw them all up into a 20ml syringe using an 18g needle, the switch to a 21g syringe and inject it all into the vial (the vial should have a small vent pin in it as well).
    Roger that, thanks.

    My tip is dont do it. You will always loose some in the transfer, and you will only be wasting time you are now drawing and inj twice instead of once I dont see the logic?
    I have to do this because i'm planning my first cycle TEST-E 300mg/week and i can only get 250mg/1ml amps (pharma grade).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from massive View Post
    If you don't mind wasting a little gear you can use a filter needle to make sure you get any glass shards out of the mix.

    http://www.amazon.com/BD-Filter-Need.../dp/B0018QS0DO
    I'm planning to order from AR-R , so i can choose between those Titan/Whatman filters. What size do i choose for test-e?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintinnabulatio View Post
    I'm planning to order from AR-R , so i can choose between those Titan/Whatman filters. What size do i choose for test-e?
    Thanks.
    Those are syringe filters, not filter needles.
    If you can't get filter needles, you could go with a .45um syringe filter. Just be sure to push a bunch of air through it when you're done so that you don't lose a bunch of oil in it (it will hold around 2ml otherwise).

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    Okay just finished the transfer, but unfortunately i got into problems.
    I draw up all the gear from the amps into the syringe and injected it into the vial, but somehow a small chunk of rubber stopper somehow appeared on the bottom of my sterile vial. I guess it happened when i stuck the vent pin. Please don't tell me my gear is wasted

    The small chunk is stuck on the bottom of the amp, it doesn't move when i flick the vial upside down so at the moment it's impossible to draw it into the syringe.
    Last edited by tintinnabulatio; 01-12-2011 at 09:06 AM.

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    Its sukx but it happens.

    By the way for future use, its not (highly unlikely at least if you used a small one a 25-30 works fine for venting) the vent pin that causes this its using a large needle to puncture the stopper, I usually don't go larger than 21g its just not worth the wear and tear on the stopper also what I do although it takes a little practice to get the technique right LOL, when you insert the needle orient the point on the tip toward your hand and as you penetrate the vial apply SLIGHT pressure toward your hand. But really as long as you use a 21 and go straight into the cork you should be fine.

    As far as the chunk of stopper, its no problem if you have good eyes just make sure its in the bottom of the vial after each time you with draw from the bottle. The other alternative of course is to remove the oil from the vial and filter into a new vial but if you just got the one "plug" from a needle puncture you can probably just avoid it when drawing from the vial.

    FFM
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    agreed, not a big deal, highly unlikely it would pass through the needle into you when youre using injection size needles (23g or 25g) just keep an eye on it.

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    Is there any chance if I edit my post above and change it to saying how dangerous it is that I could talk you into sending it to me for safe disposal?

    Sorry.. could not help it.

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    id of just pinned 500mg pw tbh, dont forget that each 250mg amp only holds around 186mg test and the rest is ester

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    Thanks guy for the quick input. lol FFM, wish i could share with you guys as i can purchase gear without problems over here (Romania).
    dec11, cannot take the chance unfortunately for the first time due to acne. I get acne even if i eat a chocolate or drink milk, so i won't risk it for my 1st cycle.

    I think I know where i fked it up, i stuck the vent pin at an angle, damn it

    I could pull up all the gear in a 20ml syringe and transfer it into a new sterile vial, however without a filter (i cant purchase locally nowhere in my country, and the rubber chunk is stuck anyway at the bottom). Should i do this or it doesnt worth the risk of exposing the gear to air again?
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    Ok i'm sitting here and questioning whether to pin or not... i'm a *****, i'm so worried my gear got contaminated when i transfered to the sterile vials ...... I did swab the rubber before injecting... but now i'm worried that maybe i haven't left the alcohol to dry properly , and i'm also worried that my TEST doesn't contain BA? I hear that pharma grade amps are just oil and test? I have Aburaihan test......

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    There is preservative in pharm grade, same as UGL... the film of alchahol you left the rubber stopper is of no concern. Glass particles too small to readily notice can pass through a syringe needle, and problems have been documented, although only in IV injection so far as I have noticed. Transfer with filter needle will waste infinitesimally small quanity of oil, although with a whatman style, the argument could be made. There is a huge difference between "filter needle" and "syringe filter.''

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    i transfer gear as a hobby in my spare time, send me your stuff and ill take care of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintinnabulatio View Post
    Thanks guy for the quick input. lol FFM, wish i could share with you guys as i can purchase gear without problems over here (Romania).
    dec11, cannot take the chance unfortunately for the first time due to acne. I get acne even if i eat a chocolate or drink milk, so i won't risk it for my 1st cycle.

    I think I know where i fked it up, i stuck the vent pin at an angle, damn it

    I could pull up all the gear in a 20ml syringe and transfer it into a new sterile vial, however without a filter (i cant purchase locally nowhere in my country, and the rubber chunk is stuck anyway at the bottom). Should i do this or it doesnt worth the risk of exposing the gear to air again?
    if you are that prone to acne your gona get it anyway, might aswell get the reults with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintinnabulatio View Post
    Ok i'm sitting here and questioning whether to pin or not... i'm a *****, i'm so worried my gear got contaminated when i transfered to the sterile vials ...... I did swab the rubber before injecting... but now i'm worried that maybe i haven't left the alcohol to dry properly , and i'm also worried that my TEST doesn't contain BA? I hear that pharma grade amps are just oil and test? I have Aburaihan test......
    oh dear, your a tad paranoid there mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by zspedad View Post
    Can someone give me some advice on transferring 1ml amps of Test E into a 20ml vial?
    I would just leave them in the amps until its time for use.

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    You will be fine, just slowly withdraw the oil from the vial while watching the plug. No worries.

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    It seems like everytime i poke the rubber stopper with a 21g to draw i end up with a rubber chunk in my test Are my sterile vials shit or am i doing something wrong? I'm inserting the needle perpendicular to the the stopper.

    What should i do?
    Last edited by tintinnabulatio; 01-17-2011 at 06:11 AM.

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    Your stopper is garbage. I have done hundreds of vial transfers etc, and have never once had a rubber chunk.

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    well okay fukk it, 1 test amp is $4 anyway, i'll just draw from amp how much i want (0.6-0.7ml) and throw the rest away, these sterile vials are driving me insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tintinnabulatio View Post
    well okay fukk it, 1 test amp is $4 anyway, i'll just draw from amp how much i want (0.6-0.7ml) and throw the rest away, these sterile vials are driving me insane.
    what, why do that. draw what you want in 1 pin and put the rest in another pin, and then fill that to where you want next time. and keep repeating the process.....dont throw anything away
    damm man you nearly gave me a heart attack!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tintinnabulatio View Post
    and throw the rest away

    thats some steroid abuse right there

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    Hey Tintin, why don't you just pin one amp every 5 days? You're making this way harder than it is.
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    lol, jesus christ. *slaps head*

    hall of shame material

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    maybe i missed something..but why the not just leave it in the freaking amps to begin with????

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyinkedup View Post
    maybe i missed something..but why the not just leave it in the freaking amps to begin with????
    because i only need 300mg/week. Guess i need to read about preloading syringes safety

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    lol, jesus christ. *slaps head*
    hall of shame material
    No need for hate man. I just purchased pharma test-e, with original packaging,holograms,leaflet and everything. I can do a google search and find at least 5 local dealers. My ex-gf works at a gym and over the counter they have proteins, under the counter they have AAS.
    What's so wrong in not taking any risks for an extra $40?
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    Dude i gave you the easiest salution, you'll be fine

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    O-K if you want to get completely technical and really make this fun then suck up the whole 1ml vial which will allow you to inject .9ml (loss in the syringe) so if its dosed at 200mg/ml that will yield 180mgs of test (to the muscle) so if you inject that much every 4.5 days you will wind up doing exactly 1200mg a month or 300 wk.

    Formula: There is an average of 30 days (in a month) divided by 4.5 days (time apart for each injection) = 6.666666667 (number of injections per 30 day period) x 180 (the number of mg of test delivered by each injection) = 1200 ( the total number of mg of test delivered) divided by 4 (number of weeks in a month) = 300 (the number of mg per week delivered to the muscle)

    So inject Monday morning at 8 am on the dot and then inject next at Saturday at 8pm on the dot then again Thursday at 8am then again at Tuesday at 8pm then again at Sunday at 8am then again on Friday at 8pm and so on....

    Either than of you could just inject every 5 days like Bonaparte said LOL


    Bonaparte, are we still buddies or did this post sever the friendship....
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    Quote Originally Posted by gymnerd View Post
    My tip is dont do it. You will always loose some in the transfer, and you will only be wasting time you are now drawing and inj twice instead of once I dont see the logic?



    I was thinking the same thing.

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