Test E or Test C

[DoinItLive]

This is my first post on here after doing a lot of reading over the past month. I am going to begin my first cycle soon and plan on doing 400mg of Test for 12 weeks and 40mg of dbol for weeks 1-4. So far a huge majority of what I have read say use Test Enth, is that just because of the extra room the longer ester takes up in Test C or personal preference or am I missing something? I appreciate any feedback, thanks.

[Bigmax]

Test is test bro...they are almost the same...what is your PCT??...welcome by the way..also give us your stats...

[MBMETC]

Test is test bro...they are almost the same...what is your PCT??...welcome by the way..also give us your stats...

x...2

[DoinItLive]

My pct im going to follow pheendo's pct model which is: *Day 1-30- .25mg L-dex + 100mg Clomid + 20mg Nolva.* The only thing I would ask with that is, its pretty split on people whether to use the L-dex or just the clomid and nolva, I plan on following it the way it was recomended, but is not using L-dex a big deal? Anything to add or change on that PCT? Like I said I have been doing a lot of research, but it doesnt hurt to ask a 2nd or 3rd time to get the entire cycle planned out perfectly.

[DoinItLive]

Sorry, I forgot to list my stats, they are:

23 yrs old
5'10''
165lbs
13% bodyfat

[DCannon]

You could still gain a lot naturally without having to use aas. How long have you been training? What's your diet like?

[DoinItLive]

Yeah, I get that, and I am willing to try other ways to grow, any suggestions welcome. I make sure I put 100% effort forward in everything I do and never rush in to anything or do it half assed, so I would love to get the most out of any work out raw. But that being said I have been working out for about 6 years off and on, with the last 20 months or so being pretty dedicated to my work out and diet. I have tried different styles of working out, even a couple strength coaches over the years, ive hit a few plateus in strength gains which I have been able to get past by uping kcals and my macros, changing my diet and meal times, or taking a few days off and approaching my workout at a different angle. As far as my actual diet, over the past 7 weeks I have been using LeanMeOut's basic model (heres the link http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=newbie+cycle) plus I take a weight gainer shake in the morning with breakfast. I am looking in to getting a meal plan set up with a nutritionist before I start my cycle just so I can get the most out of it, but would love to save the money and just take advice/criticism/recomendations from everyone here instead lol. Thanks again for the help from everyone....

[DoinItLive]

I also take a multi, supplement with HMB, BCAA and creatine

[bodybuilder]

Way to young bro be prepared for some irreversible sides.

[DoinItLive]

Way to young bro be prepared for some irreversible sides.

Now so it isn't taken in the wrong way, im not disagreeing, agreeing, or discounting your experience and knowledge, thats why im here asking.....that being said im not naive and realize with any substance you put in your body is going to have effects on you, positive and negative. Im aware of the sides of using AAS and that in any enviornment things can and do happen, but do you believe that anyone my age cannot, use AAS under proper guidlines, including diet, doses, PCT, etc. effectively?

Thanks for all the feedback from everyone