need some urgent help from pro

[billy0082]

hey guys i m a pro trainer from lebanon would like any help

i have a client 33 years old and was 78 kg
he was so thin and weak after 1 year of hard trainin with protein was little progress
then we went into a deca susta and testoviron cycle
300 mg deca + 250 mg sustanon + 250 mg testoviron for 8 weeks
he gained with proper nutrition 25 kg and now we had 7 weeks pct
he s still 106 kg but with lots of fat

i m planing to start for him a cutting cycle :

500 mg of primobolan + 300 mg of winstrol + 200 mg of propionate weekly bases

for 8 weeks keeping same level all 8 weeks

is it too much ??? should i pyramid it ?? should i decrease the doze ? i would appreciate any help from you guys and thanks

[scotty51312]

Steroids aren't the solution for this guy to cut. Cardio and diet are. If he's gained 25kg in 8 weeks then he's gained a massive ammount of fat, and didn't bulk properly.

[t-gunz]

did i get this right.

your a pro trainer? and you asking if this cycle is good cause your client is fat?

[Brewster]

I just read through all your posts
your a moron and should not be giving out cycle advice to anyone,
get your client to sign up to the forum so he can get some real advice
not the broken telephone garbage you have been feeding him

and oh ya
find a new career

[sixoner]

hey bud i'm not a pro but I have a few questions ....

33 years old and was 78 kg

170lb guy fair enough...how tall??

then approx 4months later and with a bunch of gear that you jacked this guy up with by your own admission

he s still 106 kg but with lots of fat

hes around 230 and fat as all hell.....

now you're asking about some more shit to get him back down......what is your logic?? are you high???

[billy0082]

edit, marcus

[billy0082]

i m not asking u cz i m lost and duno wut to do i need some more help i kno that goin primo and win and propio with clen will get him cut as hell his body fat is high but that doesn t mean he didn t gain lots of power and lots of muscles 2 .
he s 182 cm

[sixoner]

dude youre saying this guy has gained 60lb give or take in 15weeks time and youre looking to jam him up with more shit....yet you proclaim he's still 106kg

seriously man read what it is you are writing...does this type of transition in body composition in relatively short amount of time not seem radical to you??? when will you feel satisfied when you kill somebody with your completely ignorant logic......leave that guy alone bro he probably needs to just take a break drink some water and reflect on the stupid shit you put him through and for what???? are you satisfied with what you have done???

[billy0082]

bro he was sooo thin now he s got some biceps some shoulders pectorals , let s say he was 80 kg and he gained approximately 20 kg givin that he went 8 weeks deca and susta and 3 weeks rest then 7 weeks pct and now he s 2 weeks after his pct total time is 20 weeks like 5 months he didn t gain all shit
he has more muscles and he s bulked up and wut i did was so safe

if u can help in the new cycle i , gona make him start in 2 months i d appreciate it

week 1-8: 500mg primobolan /week + 200mgs testosterone propionate /week + 50mgs winstro/day + 0.25mgs arimidex /day

post cycle therapy (PCT):

week 9-13: clomid 50mgs/day + nolvadex 20mgs/day

[billy0082]

and he s not full of fat bro he s like 17% max bodyfat i just wana make him be ripped to the bones he s workin out 5 times a week very tough training and now very proper diet of 250 g of protein 350 g of slow digesting carbs with few high digesting and 5 % good fat and some nitotech protein and hydro creatine .

he s gettin better a lot but i mean he wana be like supper ripped and he wana add more vascularity and rough look i didn t **** his life on the other hand i made his life better he was a couch potato so scared of everythin now he s a big guy very confident with muscles

[terraj]

You should tell him to hire a new trainer

[boz]

ahahahahaha ^

[Choppers]

so 25 kg gains in 8 weeks off eating 2520 calories (1000cal protein and 1400cal carbs and some fat say 120cal)........

I guess this is mostly water and fat.

Can you get him to post some photos. I ,for one ,would love to see this 8 week transformation.......

[billy0082]

edit, marcus

[billy0082]

choppers wut do u think about the cutting cycle i posted up

[Newyorkrockstar]

is this person ur "training" is actually you?? and if it isnt then i would say as a trainer you know the answer is his diet if he wants to get ripped and shredded .. he already got what you wanted him to which is more weight on his bones...

[MBMETC]

if he gained 60lbs that should tell you what he needed all along was to eat. let the man learn how to diet and correct the damage you inflicted on him..leave him alone and he'll be fine

[Brewster]

edit, marcus

[marcus300]

No flamming please, please read the rules

[billy0082]

guys i kno i can make him be ripped by dietin but when u wana be big and ripped and vascular and deep abs and perfect figure u kno this diet cant make u like this u ll have to lose lot of weight to do it

we started now a diet high protein and very low in fat and low in carbs with low carbs and fat protein supplement and hydrochloride creatine we r on the right track we already lost some water and some fat and he looks gr8


i m diet certified i m iffbb certified and coach export level 3 from kebec certified 2 i dnt need no one to help me in training or dieting i m the one to be asked for those stuff hehehehe

i just want some help knowin that the cutting cycle i will mention is 90% wut he needs i just wanted to hear from u about the cycle not about sayin stuff and bla bla bla so if anyone can give his oppinion bout the cycle he s welcomed and if not keep up the words

week 1-8: 500mg primobolan /week + 200mgs testosterone propionate /week + 50mgs winstro/day + 0.25mgs arimidex /day

post cycle therapy (PCT):

week 9-13: clomid 50mgs/day + nolvadex 20mgs/day

[billy0082]

this the cutting cycle:

week 1-8: 500mg primobolan /week + 200mgs testosterone propionate /week + 50mgs winstro/day + 0.25mgs arimidex /day

post cycle therapy (PCT):

week 13-17: clomid 50mgs/day + nolvadex 20mgs/day

[GrEgZter]

You are in the wrong busyness, with your kind of knowledge you will have no client to train. Stop killing the poor dude.

[Brewster]

No flamming please, please read the rules

srry Marcus,
I just run into people all the time who are getting terrible cycle advice from people like this "pro Trainer"

[billy0082]

you guys sucks and ur jelous cz i can make up to 1000 bucks in one day while all u do is buy shit and get injected in ur bloody butts hehehe

[Bonaparte]

you guys sucks and ur jelous cz i can make up to 1000 bucks in one day while all u do is buy shit and get injected in ur bloody butts hehehe

Troll...

[MBMETC]

if your so opposed to steroids why do you give them to clients, sounds like your the jelouse one living through others because you are, as milos says "MOUSE".

[Brewster]

[GrEgZter]

I would like to see what a pro trainer from lebonon looks like, post some pics

[billy0082]

bro this is the link of ma group on fb i ve pics on it and u can check ma profile 2

http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/...id=93822503025

[MBMETC]

that was good to expose your identity i hope nobody is monitering this

[Bonaparte]

that was good to expose your identity i hope nobody is monitering this

He's from Lebanon. AAS is legal there so he probably isn't the one selling the gear anyway.

[MBMETC]

He's from Lebanon. AAS is legal there so he probably isn't the one selling the gear anyway.

i figured as much, oh well