looking and feeling different already. veins coming out on my chest workout were i never had them before . feel like i dont want to miss a day in the gym ,i love this. i was thinking 4 weeks before noticing anything but i know this is not placebo. energy level high feel strong always .no sides at all yet .always had a pimple or 2 .feel that this could be a productive first cycle/dose, still same on weight but im pumped.