600 deca to much?

[smalltime7]

37 y/o
5'6"
190 lbs
13% BF
14 years lifting experience with several small cycles.

I am on TRT I am preparing for a blast my next blast before a cutting cycle I am thinking 800/week test C with 600/week deca and 4 weeks of dbol 25mg/ED

so is 600 deca /week to much?

my goal is another 20 lbs or so before I do a test/clen/t3/winny cut for summer.

[delta1111]

I have ran Deca at about 600mg per week with test before. I have always found Deca to be weak though. I prefer Tren.

[MACHINE5150]

it is not too much.. but usually you want to do 1.5x as much test than deca as a rule of thumb to ward of side effects of the deca.. but i am sure you will be fine at 800/600... anything more than 600mg is generally not recomended

[smalltime7]

thanks guys I know I should try for maybe 2:1 ratio but im certainly not ready for 1200/test and I will survive with the possibility of some deca dick. as far as tren I would like to try it sometime but for now I got deca and I havent done deca for a very long time as I was on a EQ kick.

[eGGz]

Should be a good bulker. Lots of water with deca,,,
Also, be sure and have some prami, or an equivalent on hand.

[smalltime7]

I intend on .25mg liquidex daily. hopefully that will keep water/gyno away.

[dec11]

it is not too much.. but usually you want to do 1.5x as much test than deca as a rule of thumb to ward of side effects of the deca.. but i am sure you will be fine at 800/600... anything more than 600mg is generally not recomended

not true big guy. as long as above base supplementary test is used there shouldnt be any probs. a trt dose of test is enough

[eGGz]

I intend on .25mg liquidex daily. hopefully that will keep water/gyno away.

Liquidex will help with the water;
If you start getting gyno symptoms from the test then nolva is a good way to go.
If you start getting gyno symptoms from the deca then caber, prami, etc. is in order.
Test gyno symptoms and deca gyno symptoms are two different animals with different remedies.

[Brewster]

it is not too much.. but usually you want to do 1.5x as much test than deca as a rule of thumb to ward of side effects of the deca.. but i am sure you will be fine at 800/600... anything more than 600mg is generally not recomended

this is false info.

[smalltime7]

Liquidex will help with the water;
If you start getting gyno symptoms from the test then nolva is a good way to go.
If you start getting gyno symptoms from the deca then caber, prami, etc. is in order.
Test gyno symptoms and deca gyno symptoms are two different animals with different remedies.

how are you to know which is which? i am almost SURE to see gyno last time i did deca test dbol I started to see signs but that was the only time so please line me out in which to have on hand and how much to dose if this arises.

[smalltime7]

how are you to know which is which? i am almost SURE to see gyno last time i did deca test dbol I started to see signs but that was the only time so please line me out in which to have on hand and how much to dose if this arises.

caber and prami is this an ARR product?

[dec11]

caber and prami is this an ARR product?

yeah, you can get em there

[eGGz]

how are you to know which is which? i am almost SURE to see gyno last time i did deca test dbol I started to see signs but that was the only time so please line me out in which to have on hand and how much to dose if this arises.

That is indeed the question.
For me dbol is the culprit, gives me gyno symptoms everytime. I control it with nolva or simply avoid dbol.
800mg of test could also cause estrogen induced gyno symptoms. Again nolvadex would address these gyno symptoms.
The problem is, at 600mg per week of deca, you could very well have progesterone issues.
How one tells the difference other than cycle experience is beyond me.
When cycling with deca I prefer Cabergoline and will always have it on hand.
I also always have Nolvadex on hand.
I will run Arimidex throughout to help with controlling estrogen. Many prefer to use Aromasin.

[Ashop]

Most guys do well on 400-600mg per wk.
A general rule of thumb is 2mg per lb of bodyweight.

[smalltime7]

Most guys do well on 400-600mg per wk.
A general rule of thumb is 2mg per lb of bodyweight.

so i could get away with 400 and maybe get the same results.

[MBMETC]

depends on your gaols 400mgs is ok but 600mgs is better. i think you'll find right inbetween is where you want to be (500mg) jmo

[smalltime7]

well I would love to catch 15-20 lbs and get to 210 before a cut round to be ready for summer.