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    Need info/help First Cycle

    Hi im new to these forums and ive just started my first cycle.
    After talking to my friends who are currently on cycles and reading posts on this forum, opinions seem to differ quite dramatically. I need some help/guide as to what would be the most effective way to stack on weight and keep it in preparation for some intensive military training.
    These are the details of my cycle
    Weeks 1-10 - 500mgs Test E/week
    Weeks 1-5 - 250mgs Deca/week
    Weeks 1-4 - 200mgs Dianabol/week

    Does this seem too excessive for my first cycle with Dianabol and Deca together?

    For my PCT atm I’ve only gone for Nolvadex. Have 60 tabs at 10mgs each.
    Im unsure when I should start taking the Nolva. My friends say last four weeks of the cycle, but others on this forum say after your cycle is finished, or when you start feeling symptoms of gyno. Also unsure if just the nolva is enough, because ive read when using deca, Clomid is a must do.
    Im currently 23 yrs of age, 5”7 weighing in at around 162 pounds. Need to put on some weight and keep it on. Still doing a shit load of cardio, and basically eating a low fat diet. Im taking a mass gainer 3 times a day for an extra 1500 calories. I like to think I haven’t got much BF, which is mostly true.

    Any help with the details of this cycle would be great.

    Kennyrogers

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    Dont do that cycle...that is the best advice that you will probably get in your whole life...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicko View Post
    Dont do that cycle...that is the best advice that you will probably get in your whole life...
    ooooooh okay, care to go into any details?

    Cheers

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    well for one, your dbol is it injectable or oral. Never done injectable, but if its oral should be 20 to 100mg ed for 4 weeks. I seem to get great results with as little as 40mg. its a 17aa alter, so it can make it to your liver, so its liver toxic. hense the lower dose. deca is way too low. and for not long enough, you need to run deca for atleast 12 weeks. you should be hitting 400 to six hundred mg/wkly (sorry my six doesnt work all of a sudden). test is good, split in 250mg/2xWKLY. also if your gonna be using nolvadex and clomid... nolvadex at 20 to 25mg/ed. you will need to get more tabs. continue your nolva into your PCT with clomid starting at 100mg/ed for 15 days dropping it to 50mg for the last 15 days of pct. start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection. here:

    wk1 to 14: test e 250mg/2xwkly
    wk1 to 12: deca 400mg/wkly
    wk1 to 4: dbol at 40mg/ed

    oh and tell your friends to not give you anymore advice. they are knuckleheads if they told you that. And with this cycle you will need way more cal/pro intake than your planning. do more research before you start.
    Last edited by onehundredk; 12-11-2010 at 02:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onehundredk View Post
    also if your gonna be using nolvadex and clomid... nolvadex at 20 to 25mg/ed. you will need to get more tabs. continue your nolva into your PCT with clomid starting at 100mg/ed for 15 days dropping it to 50mg for the last 15 days of pct. start your pct 2 weeks after your last injection. here:

    wk1 to 14: test e 250mg/2xwkly
    wk1 to 12: deca 400mg/wkly
    wk1 to 4: dbol at 40mg/ed
    the dbol is oral and I have Liv52 to help out breakin it down.
    i can get more deca for the cycle at any time but thanks for clearing that up for me.
    Since im using the Nolva you say to start it with the Test E at 20mgs a day? If so means im gonna need a shit load more tabs.
    Thanks for the feedback

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sicko View Post
    Dont do that cycle...that is the best advice that you will probably get in your whole life...
    Agree, first off your too young, secondly not enough deca and upping the deca is not the answer as 5 weeks won't do shi@
    Don't have enough nolvadex and no clomid, nolva during cycle is not needed. d-boll at 200mgs a week is on the low side
    And finally weight gains should be made with food not gainers until you can gain naturally your cycle will be a waste.
    Go ahead and give it to me now.....f u man I'm not too young, i do eat food and and I know what to do because my friend ran the same cycle and gained like 30lbs so if your not gonna help don't reply. Heard it all before bro but it's the truth sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBMETC View Post
    Go ahead and give it to me now.....f u man I'm not too young, i do eat food and and I know what to do because my friend ran the same cycle and gained like 30lbs so if your not gonna help don't reply. Heard it all before bro but it's the truth sorry.
    Haha why would i turn around and rip into you? I know thats primarily what the internet is for, but im the on asking for help here! Im going to rethink some basic principles before going into this cycle and further. Thanks for the help.

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