Not sure what is going on

**GymHero** · 12-12-2010, 06:15 PM

I have been on Test prop at 70 mg ed now for 18 days. The last few days I have been feeling really emotional for some reason and have cried 3 times!? Wtf!? I did not take my shot today and am stopping my cycle. I plan on just doing nolva for 4 weeks.

Stats-
Age- 22
Cycle exp - 1st cycle
Height - 5 '' 11
Weight - 175
bf - 11 %

**sleep.eat.train** · 12-12-2010, 06:21 PM

lol never heard of this from test prop, only from letro. Can't wait to see the responses.

**MACHINE5150** · 12-12-2010, 06:21 PM

good idea to stop your cycle before you do anymore damage.. you need to wait a couple years before you juice bud.. 25 is the magic number.. too many other hormones are going on in your system right now to be introducing that much test.. quit your cycle and do some clomid and nolvadex

liquid clomid is available at ar-r .com (or click on link at top of page) and take that at weeks 1-2 100mg weeks 3-4 50mg.. do same with nolvadex but at 40mg and then 20mg

**GymHero** · 12-12-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

good idea to stop your cycle before you do anymore damage.. you need to wait a couple years before you juice bud.. 25 is the magic number.. too many other hormones are going on in your system right now to be introducing that much test.. quit your cycle and do some clomid and nolvadex

liquid clomid is available at ar-r.com (or click on link at top of page) and take that at weeks 1-2 100mg weeks 3-4 50mg.. do same with nolvadex but at 40mg and then 20mg

I already have there clomid and nolva on deck. Do you think cloid and nolva is necessary? I was thinking just nolva at 40/40/20/20

**MACHINE5150** · 12-12-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by sleep.eat.train

lol never heard of this from test prop, only from letro. Can't wait to see the responses.

i beleive the medical reason behind this is the spike of estrogen your body starts to produce in order to keep the balance of test/estrogen in your system and that would cause emotional instability

Do not quote me on this.. as i am only speculating

**MACHINE5150** · 12-12-2010, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by GymHero

I already have there clomid and nolva on deck. Do you think cloid and nolva is necessary? I was thinking just nolva at 40/40/20/20

nolva is not going to kick start your natural test.. you can probably get away with just doing clomid at 100mg for a week and then 50mg for second week since you only ran a cycle for 18 days..

**sleep.eat.train** · 12-12-2010, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

i beleive the medical reason behind this is the spike of estrogen your body starts to produce in order to keep the balance of test/estrogen in your system and that would cause emotional instability

Do not quote me on this.. as i am only speculating

I think you are right because I was thinking the same thing. Just didn't wanna say it and be wrong lol.

**GymHero** · 12-12-2010, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

nolva is not going to kick start your natural test.. you can probably get away with just doing clomid at 100mg for a week and then 50mg for second week since you only ran a cycle for 18 days..

hmm I guess il do both, rather be safe.

**TestAce** · 12-12-2010, 06:37 PM

If you are having emotional sides right now Clomid is only going to make it worse. I would use Tamox at 20mg ED for 4 weeks and throw in Primordial's TRS + TCF-1. Your proposed PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20 is sufficient as well if you want it for peace of mind, but Nolva at 20/20/20/20 with Primordial's PCT products will be more than enough to recover you. I do not believe Clomid alone or in conjunction with another SERM in this instance is a good choice for your PCT.

**GymHero** · 12-12-2010, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by TestAce

If you are having emotional sides right now Clomid is only going to make it worse. I would use Tamox at 20mg ED for 4 weeks and throw in Primordial's TRS + TCF-1. Your proposed PCT of Nolva 40/40/20/20 is sufficient as well if you want it for peace of mind, but Nolva at 20/20/20/20 with Primordial's PCT products will be more than enough to recover you. I do not believe Clomid alone or in conjunction with another SERM in this instance is a good choice for your PCT.

That is exactly what I was thinking and is why i wanted to run nolva solo.

**GymHero** · 12-12-2010, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

nolva is not going to kick start your natural test.. you can probably get away with just doing clomid at 100mg for a week and then 50mg for second week since you only ran a cycle for 18 days..

Why do you say nolva wont kickstart my natty test? Are you sure about this?

**Far from massive** · 12-12-2010, 07:05 PM

I am also on a cycle of test prop as we speak, I am about 19 days in and I feel a little emotional before my daily shot, no tears or anything, just a little more emotional than usual. I also attributed it to the increase in estro before the test shot kicks in to level the playing field.

FFM

**TestAce** · 12-12-2010, 07:10 PM

I assume you guys haven't been taking any AI's?

**Far from massive** · 12-12-2010, 07:53 PM

I have been using L-Dex as needed usually .25 ED or EOD,

My thought is that a dosage of an AI large enough to prevent unwanted sides yet small enough to still allow good gains only suppresses aromatization enough to keep the mean average of Test/Estrogen at a point where gyno and bloating do not occur, and that right before pinning the balance of test/estro is leaning pretty heavy toward the estrogen. Hence the girlyman syndrome, however an hour after pinning you can find me marching around the house in my boxers exclaiming "Lightwieght!!" with a 45lb plate suspended on my johnson.

FFM