Where to begin?

[vtach12]

I have spent many weeks on here reading and taking notes. I am still confused with all of the gear and combinations/stacks.
Lets say a guy with similar stats as myself found a MD that is willing to help with some short term prescriptions. And that MD will monitor for trouble via blood tests.
Current stats:
Upper 30s in age, good health
200#, 5'10, 18-20% BF and falling
Diet now under good management
5 years lifting expirence, but only back for 5 months after a 6 year layoff.
Working out very hard 4-5 days a week


What would be the best starter for this person with now previous cycle history? Current labs coming back soon including a baseline blood testy level. current goal would be to bulk up, then cut closer to summer.

Please advise.

[vtach12]

Also currently taking:
Whey protein- morning and post workout
Monster Amino 5000- post workout
Glutamine- preworkout
Creatine-morning
Beta Alanine-morning with creatine
Omega 3 fish oil 1360mg- at night
Multi vitamin- morning and night

Just needing to know what one would ask his MD for to start? I have a good idea, but would like to hear some expirenced peoples advice and see if I am learning.

[Matt]

A basic beginners cycle of testosterone , 300/500mgs per week would be a good starting point.....

[vtach12]

Okay. I was thinking one would go with test propionate 500mgs/wk for a 8 or 12 week cycle. Although I like the idea of 1 IM a week with cypionate since I am not a big fan of needles. Probably should get an aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex too? Would stacking with DECA at 500mgs/wk for 12 weeks be a good idea?

[etman]

I would go with
75mg test prop Ed or 150mg eod for 8 weeks
Run .25 armidex Ed

Or

250mg test e or c x2 every week for 12 weeks
Run .25mg of armidex Ed

[etman]

I would go with
75mg test prop Ed or 150mg eod for 8 weeks
Run .25 armidex Ed

Or

250mg test e or c x2 every week for 12 weeks
Run .25mg of armidex Ed
I think its Pct 10 days after last shot For test e/c and 4 days for test p
Nolva 40/20/20/20
Clomid 100/50/50/50

[JohnnyVegas]

Although I like the idea of 1 IM a week with cypionate since I am not a big fan of needles.

There are others more qualified to answer your questions, but I can comment on the needles: it probably won't be as bad as you think. I just did my first injection on Sunday (200mg/1ml Test Cyp) and discovered that the fear is worse than the actual injection. Didn't hurt AT ALL.

[SlimJoe]

Test 500mg a week 2 shots best option also never forget your pct and all the rest try plan things to perfection atb joe

[vtach12]

Okay hadn't thought about that stach ETman.
Slimjoe, I assume you are talking about test cypionate ??? Or is that with the propionate ? This person will have to ask the MD for it by the exact name? Dose for the PCT, and should the person order that at the same time, then take after the 12 week cycle?
Thanks.

[Rizdizzle]

Test E or C shot twice a week 300/500mg is a normal starting cycle. Dont even bother with the deca just yet. Just like the gents above said

[MBMETC]

Work out for more time to build a better base and strengthen tendons and connective tissue and drop bf in the meantime.
Look into a test e only cycle 300-500 mgs pw for 10-12 weeks shot 2x's a week with an ai to keep estrogen in check. Also a clomid / nolva pct. Read the pct stickies to learn a proper pct.

[vtach12]

Okay How much time is needed for a base before a cycle? One doesn't want to wait too long as the source may go away.

[MBMETC]

Okay How much time is needed for a base before a cycle? One doesn't want to wait too long as the source may go away.

Gear is good for years, don't worry about that.

[vtach12]

Okay, got my labs back. Liver Billi and CO2 were a little high. HDL was low 33, but tris and total were good. Everything else was in the normal range. Total T was 327 which according to the lab 208 to 950 is normal. Seems low to me?? I think I need some test E, 500mg a week (two 250mg a week) for 12 weeks and then see how I feel? Does that sound right?

[vtach12]

My MD window is closing which is why I was wanting to start the gear soon. I have been doing strenous laboring work for the past 3 years, so the several months at the gym is not the only stressing.

What would be the lowest dose I should accept from my MD? I know 500mg/week would be ideal?

What kind of gains should I expect in 8 or 12 weeks?

[Duckhombre]

Md is going to give you 100-200mg/week max. No more if he is legitimate. If you are wanting to look good this sumer, you better do a real short cycle! Figure 8 weeks on and 8 weeks off, thats about 4 months until you can start again so plan ahead. Buy allot of test and sit on it, some deca too, if you are willing to let it sit the closet a while.

The longer you are into this sort of thing, the more available it becomes. Your sources should not dry up, but blossom in time....

[vtach12]

And I am guessing that 200mg/week wont do me any good as far as increasing my size?

[mg0922]

Vtach

Do some of your own research bro. U keep asking the same questions over n over. You have no idea What your even doing but you want to do steroids and expect ppl to hole your hand throughtout everything. Not trying to b harsh just constructive criticism. Stick around here and educate yourself. I'm doing the same thing. We will answer your questions but wont do it All for you. I don't think your ready to use AAS Just my. 02

[Bonaparte]

You have borderline low test.
Normally anything below 300ng/dl is usually illegible for TRT unless you doc is conservative.
I would just get this doc to put you on TRT, which will help a lot.
Forget cycling and coming off with test levels in the 300 range.

[cro]

nice diagnosis ....

You have borderline line low test.
Normally anything below 300ng/dl is illegible for TRT.
I would just get this doc to put you on TRT, which will help a lot.
Forget cycling and coming off with test levels in the 300 range.