Second Cycle (first cycle with injectables)

[lestat88]

Hi Guys

My first cycle was dbol only without a PCT and before I get flamed I already know what people are going to say about the cycle, and it's that I am too young. But, by saying that, I would like to know people's thoughts of the 10 week cycle before I start.

Age: 22
Height: 177cm
Weight: 82.2kg
BF: ~15%
Goal: Tone up and put on some size

Week 1 - 4
20/30/50/50mg Dbol ED
.5ml Tren EOD
.5ml Test E EOD
.5ml Test Prop EOD

Week 5 - 8
.5ml Tren EOD
.5ml Test E EOD
.5ml Test Prop EOD

Week 9 - 10
.5ml Test Prop EOD
.5ml Sust250 EOD (supplier was out of test e)

PCT -
Week 8 - 10
1ml HCG per week

Supplements -
Fish Oil x 6 1000mg ED
Multi V x 2 ED
Milk Thistle x 2 7000mg ED whilst on dbol
Vitamin B6 x 1 50mg ED

Diet -
Workout Days: 3218 Calories (252g Protein, 90g Fat, 360g Carbs [Not counting fruit & veggies])
Off Days: 2018 Calories (252g Protein, 90g Fat, 60g Carbs [Not counting fruit & veggies])

Breakfast:
3 whole eggs + 3/4 cup egg whites
4 slices of ezekiel bread (if I can find it)

Morning tea:
2 scoops ON 100% Whey
1tbls Low Fat Peanut Butter
1 cup Oats (not in non work out days)
1 Banana or Strawberries (not in non work out days)

Lunch:
180g Turkey Breast
24 Almonds
1 1/3 cup of rice (not in non work out days)
1 cup green beans

Afternoon tea:
2 scoops ON 100% Whey
1tbls Low Fat Peanut Butter
1 cup Oats (not in non work out days)
1 Banana or strawberries (not in non work out days)

Dinner:
180g Chicken Breast
24 Almonds
1 1/3 cup rice (not in non work out days)
1.5 cup green beans (not in non work out days)

Evening tea:
180g mince
200g sweet potato (not in non work out days)

Looks like alot of food seeing though I've been on 1200 calories for the past 2 months, should be able to put on some size.

As for training I'm not completely sure, but something like this
Monday - Back+Traps
Deadlift
Pull-Up
Lat Pulldown
Bent Over Row
BB Shrug
DB Shrug
Cable Crunch
Hanging Leg Raisers
Sidebenders

Tuesday - Chest+Shoulder
Bench Press
Incline DB Press
Incline DB Flys
Cable X-Overs
Military Press
DB Press
DB Side Lateral

Wednesday - Arms
BB Curl
DB Curl
Concentration Curls
Dips
Close Grip Bench
Skull Crusher
V Bar Pulldown
Tricep Kickback
Weighted Crunch
Laying Leg Raisers
Sidebenders

Thursday - Legs
Squats
Stiff Leg Deadlift
Leg Press or DB Lunges
Leg Extension
Leg Curl
Standing Calf Raise
Seated Calf Raise

Friday - Chest, Back, Arms
Incline Bench
Incline Flys
Widegrip Pullups
Lat Pulldown
DB Curls
BB Curls
Dips
Skull Crushers
Weighted Crunch
Russian Twists
Situps + Leg raises

Saturday - Cardio
30 mins HIIT

[yungone501]

Firstly, it is not recommended to cycle below the age of 25...as permanent damage to your body could occur. Your body is not finished developing yet.

Secondly, a second cycle (actually your first) should NOT include tren . Tren is suggested for those who have cycled many times and know exactly what they are doing and, more importantly, what they are about to perservere as tren has horrid side effects.

Its pretty obvious (not to insult you) that you are not ready for steroids in ANY type of way and i suggest growing naturally till you reach the appropriate age and research endlessly until then. Afterwich, you might be ready physically and mentally. Trust me when i say this stuff is not for those whom are ill prepared. Take this advice and use it constructively and you will much happier that you chose the proper path. Good luck.

[layeazy]

you dont want 5ml Test E EOD u only need to inject that twice a week also its a high amount of testosterone to take on really your first cycle and u wanna stick to just the one not both too much dont know how u will react if u get sides which is the cause

[craino]

I was wondering if that cycle would be good for me?
Im doing the exact same as above except my stats:
Age: 26
Height: 170
Weight: 80kg
Bf: ~8%
and the same goal as above (lean up with quality gains). Will be 4th cycle

[pwnflow]

Agreed with others. Bt what are the doses? How many mg/ml?

Diet doesn't look bad but training seems like shit. And your PCT makes ZERO sense.

[yungone501]

Wow, yeah, that pct also isnt going to fly either. Totally missed that one. Just another reason for u to wait.

[MBMETC]

the only thing useful in the whole post is the test prop..

[craino]

250mg/ml test e
100mg/ml prop
75mg/ml tren
Pct also includes both clomid n nolva introduced once last esther finishes (normal cycle).
Test e injects would be mixed with the tren and prop, thats why only .5 eod instead of the usual 2x a week
So doing it this way, does it sound good for me?

[Littleirishman]

thats a lot on injecting to be doing too!

[lestat88]

Sorry I missed the rest of the pct

Weeks 14-18
40/20/20/10 Nolva
40/20/20/10 Clomid

yeah alot of injecting, but it's ok