1st Cycle test prop, Would like some help!

**The_Tank** · 12-14-2010, 02:12 PM

1st Test Prop for 6-8 weeks (depending on work arrangements)

This is going to be my first cycle, and i purpose to do a 8 week test prop at 100mg EOD. I havn't started this cycle yet as i wanted to gather as much info on pct and cycle before i do it.

Current Stats
21
5ft 5"
184 lbs
12% body fat (estimated as im out of the country)

Biceps - 17"
Chest - 44"
waist - 32"

purposed cycle

Weeks 1-8
Test prop - 100mg eod

weeks 4-8
Winstrol - 40mg ed

PCT
Nolvadex
Clomid

Other Supplements
Liv52 (for the winstrol)

Was thinking about taking noladex ED throughout the cycle, but wanted to know in plain simple the implications of this?

Diet
I eat between 6-7 meals a day, i'm also allergic to protein powders so most of my protein comes from solids.

Meal 1,2,3
40 grams of protein from sources such as chicken, beef, eggs, fish
125 grams of carbohydrates from sources such as Brown rice, wholemeal bread, wholemeal pasta

Meal 1,2,3
40 grams of protein from whey refresh
2 bottles of lucozade

Meal 5,6
40 grams of protein from sources such as chicken, beef, eggs, fish
75 grams of carbohydrates from sources such as Brown rice, wholemeal bread, wholemeal pasta

Training
I go to the gym 6 days a week and do about 1hr 30 mins a day, while i am on the cycle i shall be doing each muscle group twice a week with cardio added in the 4-8 weeks

Thats all the info i can think of for now and just wanted to know what else i should include?

**littleriverman** · 12-14-2010, 05:18 PM

if you haven't tried your test p yet take one glute shot and gauge the post injection pain level because test p is very painfull depending on which oil is used.

***t-gunz*** · 12-14-2010, 06:27 PM

i dont think its the oil thts painful i think its th BA%. correct me if im wrong.

1hr 30 mins a day ? i hope its not all lifting? if so cut it down to 1 hr max or even a bit less.

other than that i like the cycle

**ijbickerdike** · 12-14-2010, 06:33 PM

Hi,

t-gunz has helped me out alot and i have even got my cycle and PCT sorted now after speaking to him. VERY worth taking his comment son board!!

Cheers man

**Far from massive** · 12-14-2010, 06:56 PM

You are too young too cycle, your HPTA is not yet fully developed. In addition its apparent you have not read a lot about what a first cycle should consist of and why so even if you were 25 you would not be ready to use AAS yet.

You will be unlikely to get any advice on how to use AAS at your age on this board from anyone with any lengthy experience as they would be doing you a disservice.

***t-gunz*** · 12-14-2010, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

You are too young too cycle, your HPTA is not yet fully developed. In addition its apparent you have not read a lot about what a first cycle should consist of and why so even if you were 25 you would not be ready to use AAS yet.

You will be unlikely to get any advice on how to use AAS at your age on this board from anyone with any lengthy experience as they would be doing you a disservice.

looks like i disserive.

100% pointed me ya think? lol

***t-gunz*** · 12-14-2010, 07:45 PM

only think i prob would do is mate. is drop the winny for now.

just one compound will be fine

***t-gunz*** · 12-14-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by ijbickerdike

Hi,

t-gunz has helped me out alot and i have even got my cycle and PCT sorted now after speaking to him. VERY worth taking his comment son board!!

Cheers man

thanks for the kind words

**SlimmerMe** · 12-14-2010, 07:50 PM

If you have not started already, please hold off. At 21 you already have a TON of HORMONES!

Please wait. Take advantage of your natural hormones. Use your edge. Building a natural foundation is the goal. The point is to use your own until you have completely maxxed out on your own before turning to steroids . Then you will go much further.

Also you do not want to mess with your testosterone at 21. Could lead to ED.

**Littleirishman** · 12-14-2010, 07:54 PM

what about taking dbol on its own, seen as you have loads me test at this age?

**Far from massive** · 12-14-2010, 09:17 PM

T-Gunz,

Sorry was not trying to flame you or point my comment at you specifically (did not notice your post count/join date) , although I do disagree with giving AAS advice to people under 25.

***t-gunz*** · 12-15-2010, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

T-Gunz,

Sorry was not trying to flame you or point my comment at you specifically (did not notice your post count/join date) , although I do disagree with giving AAS advice to people under 25.

nah thats cool mate. i see where you are coming from.

i know its hard for young bloke. they wanna start early.

hell you would think 21 years old is a great age to start here. guys are 18 and 19 hitting gear. dumb ass's lol (not saying you should use gear at a young age by any means )

**junkiescumbag** · 12-15-2010, 01:04 AM

prop really isnt all that bad, you will expect much worse then the pain it delivers.

**boz** · 12-15-2010, 06:33 AM

Originally Posted by t-gunz

i dont think its the oil thts painful i think its th BA%. correct me if im wrong.

1hr 30 mins a day ? i hope its not all lifting? if so cut it down to 1 hr max or even a bit less.

other than that i like the cycle

You would like it mr gunz, i seem to see that test prop is one of your favourite compounds lol.