intermediate cutting cycle. how does it look? would you do it diffrently? if so how?

**danr** · 12-16-2010, 08:17 PM

week, test-andropen , clen , var
1, 275mg/E3D
2, 275mg/E3D
3, 275mg/E3D, 20-60mcg/day, 30mg/day
4, 275mg/E3D, 60-120mcg/day, 30mg/day

week ,test-andropen, win (oil based)
5, 275mg/E3D, 100mg/EOD

week, test-prop,var, clen,win (oil based)
6, 100mg/EOD,50mg/day, 100mg/EOD
7, 100mg/EOD,50mg/day, 20-60mcg/day,100mg/EOD
8, 100mg/EOD,50mg/day, 60-120mcg/day,100mg/EOD
9, 100mg/EOD

*arimidex 5mgs/day wks 1-12

**MBMETC** · 12-17-2010, 01:14 AM

so your running var for 2 weeks and winny for 4 weeks also doing a 2 week clen run and taking 5 weeks off clen to follow by 2 more weeks.
your plan is wack, also are you useing 2 different ester tests, if so it gets even worse. oh lordy lord!
stats please
age
weight
height
bf%
yrs training
goals for this cycle

**lil_herc81** · 12-17-2010, 01:56 AM

^ and cycle history.

**danr** · 12-17-2010, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by MBMETC

so your running var for 2 weeks and winny for 4 weeks also doing a 2 week clen run and taking 5 weeks off clen to follow by 2 more weeks.
your plan is wack, also are you useing 2 different ester tests, if so it gets even worse. oh lordy lord!
stats please
age
weight
height
bf%
yrs training
goals for this cycle

sorry if my charts hard to understand . I'm not on a regular PC rite now, but my plan is actually just run andropen alone for the first 2wks, then weeks 3&4 clen & var. 2wks off clen (continue wks 7&8),1wk off var (continue wks 6-8).the 2 wks off the clen I plan to throw in a fat burner (cellucor d4). weeks 5-8 add win.
wks6-9 prop

the test I have is andropen and prop.

my first three cycles I ran I didn't really research much I just took the stuff I was given. so critisisum is fine. I am holding off on this cycle til april so I can gather facts on running a good cycle. if I need to switch things up, please, let me know wat ur opinions are.

I previously ran winny orals alone for 8 wks.
I've done winny and test p.
I've done test e and deca ( my fav so far)...

no sides from all exept of course deca!

thanks

**Bigmax** · 12-17-2010, 12:16 PM

First and foremost what are goals for this cycle??...I mean that cycle is all over the place...lets keep it simple..

**desizon** · 12-17-2010, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

First and foremost what are goals for this cycle??...I mean that cycle is all over the place...lets keep it simple..

I agree. it's hard to tell what he's even doing
No need to make it this complex.

**danr** · 12-18-2010, 03:10 AM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

First and foremost what are goals for this cycle??...I mean that cycle is all over the place...lets keep it simple..

my goal is to gain a decent amount of musle but mainly to show vascularity and cuts.

how would you guys run this cycle to promote the best results?

is it going to be an issue running adropen, then prop at the end?

thanks,

**Brewster** · 12-18-2010, 03:44 AM

your stats jersey boy?

**danr** · 12-18-2010, 03:53 AM

Originally Posted by Brewster

your stats jersey boy?

25yrs old,6'1,210lbs, training for 4 yrs on and off...i have alot of back round training ever since i was young in bmx racing...
when i was taking deca and test i was 230lbs, so i lost most of my gains from that cycle but that was one of my fave cycles...
i would never take it again because of what decas infamusly known for...

i havent takin anything since january, so its been almost a year and im ready for my next cycle in april!
I want to get my facts right and my cycle to be clean and on point, i appreciate any advice from those with knowlage and experience!

I am a decent size right now and im just looking to get shredded. i also wouldnt mind adding muscle...like i said i loved my deca/test cycle...

thanks,

**Brewster** · 12-18-2010, 05:28 AM

I recommend
Test Prop- 125mg EOD
N.P.P- 100mg EOD (Decas sister, can cause limp dick)
Var instead of Winny
HCG on Cycle
Aromison on cycle 12.5mg EOD

Nolva/Torem or Nolva/Clomid PCT

I dont know what ur BF% is right now. But you may want to spend now until April Getting it low.

or.
Marcus wrote a good post on BURST CYCLES.... You can consider one of those
search for it

**danr** · 12-18-2010, 05:40 AM

Originally Posted by Brewster

I recommend
Test Prop- 125mg EOD
N.P.P- 100mg EOD (Decas sister, can cause limp dick)
Var instead of Winny
HCG on Cycle
Aromison on cycle 12.5mg EOD

Nolva/Torem or Nolva/Clomid PCT

I dont know what ur BF% is right now. But you may want to spend now until April Getting it low.

or.
Marcus wrote a good post on BURST CYCLES.... You can consider one of those
search for it

shouldnt the arimedex help with maintaining my sex drive after taking the test?...i was going to get hcg because i herd it brings ure balls back to normal size, but i figured the gear i chose for this cycle i would not need to include it while taking the arimidex after running test (i figured the test would bring the sex drive back up and arimidex will maintain it back to normal levels)...

Also what is N.P.P?

perhaps, i should throw the winny in the first 4 wks, and end my cycle with var?

since i would be using two difrent tests through out the cycle (andropen and prop), would this be an issue?

do i need to buy more gear? will i be fine using the gear that i have?

also what kind of end results/sides am i looking at if i do my cycle as planned in my first post (i updated the chart).

thanks,