Help Planning future cycle(s)...how many before summer cut

**spidartanks** · 12-17-2010, 01:20 AM

Hi evereyone!

so i just got done my first cycle of 8weeks test e and dbols to kickstart! things were awesome! my strength went up my size went up and i felt great! i am currently on my 2nd week of clomid and nolva PCT.
Yesterday i Deadlifted 500lbs so that was a goal i was hoping for.

heres my question: i read about leaving a gap of cycle plus pct inbetween cycles. I started first cycle october 1st. so 2nd cycle earliest start date would be March? OR can i do it sooner or even 2 cycles before summer?

I would like to put on more mass (im 5'8 195, 15%bf)..> as i am still eating to bluk but for summer i DO want to lean and shred fat.

i was thinking TREN or a mix a friend told me about TNT?

any advice or help here would be great, im kind of all over the map i know, but my main goal is to get some more SIZE before i cut for summer.

thanks again

**spidartanks** · 12-17-2010, 11:23 AM

bump

**sleep.eat.train** · 12-17-2010, 12:22 PM

Time on+PCT=Time off

***D7M*** · 12-18-2010, 02:59 AM

^Right.

And get blood work to confirm.

**awesome1** · 12-18-2010, 05:22 PM

pretty brave to go for tren for your second cycle IMO.

**CMB** · 12-18-2010, 05:31 PM

Well, I would always do the formula above. But! if you really want to go for it then its possible.

I should warn you that it makes recovery slower, so besure to have an agressive pct consisting of SERMs, and hcg .

Start you're next cyle in beggining of march, make it a test prop cycle/anavar both at moderate/high dosages for 4 weeks.

Then, start another cutting cycle 8 weeks after your last dose.

Then you will have 2 cycles under your belt with some recovery time in between

good luck.

(P.S. you don't want to try tren your second cycle, it is pretty rough if you don't know what you're dealing with)

**Solidarity** · 12-18-2010, 06:45 PM

Time on=time off is a good rule of thumb but blood work is superior.

If you have blood work pre-cycle then you can gauge your recovery, if you had a test level of 500 ng/dl before cycle and two months after pct you are back at that same level I don't see the reason for waiting another two months, or however long before cycling again.

Just the same if your test levels were 500 ng/dl pre cycle and now 6 months after your cycle your test levels are 250 ng/dl I wouldn't suggest going back on cycle just yet even though you have waited enough time according to the time on=time off theory.

Blood test and how you feel is the best way to gauge when you should start a cycle.