Final first cycle review

[LGM]

Okay, first cycle.

Stats:

Age: 39
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 260
BF: 13%
Years training: 20 plus

Doing bw next week; plan on doing bw at mid point, before pct and after pct.

Cycle:

Test e, 12 weeks, 400 mg wk shot Mon am and Thurs pm.
proviron , 12 weeks, 50 mg ED
HCG , twice weekly at 250iu's.
adex at .25 EOD, 12 weeks.

PCT:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Tore 120/120/60/60

Any help appreciated. As I'm prone to water retention, I decided to add the proviron to my cycle, and run adex throughout.

I'd also like to know if the tore doses are good enough for a basic cycle as this.

[MBMETC]

Okay, first cycle.

Stats:

Age: 39
Height: 6'4"
Weight: 260
BF: 13%
Years training: 20 plus

Doing bw next week; plan on doing bw at mid point, before pct and after pct.

Cycle:

Test e, 12 weeks, 400 mg wk shot Mon am and Thurs pm.
proviron , 12 weeks, 50 mg ED
HCG , twice weekly at 250iu's.
adex at .25 EOD, 12 weeks.

PCT:

Nolva 40/40/20/20
Tore 120/120/60/60

Any help appreciated. As I'm prone to water retention, I decided to add the proviron to my cycle, and run adex throughout.

I'd also like to know if the tore doses are good enough for a basic cycle as this.

Cycle is fine, test only is a good intro cycle. I don't see the need for proviron along a ai, wait to see what others say
Pct
Clomid 100/100/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/2020
If your diet is strong you should see nice gains
Good luck

[CMB]

I would toss proviron and switch it with dbol and THEN run an AI with it.

And if you're prone to estrogenic sides, then run letro .

[vettewreck]

I would toss proviron and switch it with dbol and THEN run an AI with it.

And if you're prone to estrogenic sides, then run letro .

I completely dissagree.

Its your first cycle man. What you have is perfect. No need to complicate things with adding in another compound then taking this or that to combat the sides, ect, ect. No. Test only is perfect. Learn your body. And proviron will only harden you up and make you horny. Even better.

Also, you dont neeeeeed to run HCG throughout seeing as I dont see 400mg/wk shutting you down too much. Certainly wont hurt but not a "have to". You could just save it till week 10 and start it up at 1000iu per week to jump start the nuts but overall its your call. IMO i just dont see 400mg shutting you down hard enough to have to run it the entire cycle. But again, not a bad idea to do it anyways.

[CMB]

I completely dissagree.

Its your first cycle man. What you have is perfect. No need to complicate things with adding in another compound then taking this or that to combat the sides, ect, ect. No. Test only is perfect. Learn your body. And proviron will only harden you up and make you horny. Even better.

Also, you dont neeeeeed to run HCG throughout seeing as I dont see 400mg/wk shutting you down too much. Certainly wont hurt but not a "have to". You could just save it till week 10 and start it up at 1000iu per week to jump start the nuts but overall its your call. IMO i just dont see 400mg shutting you down hard enough to have to run it the entire cycle. But again, not a bad idea to do it anyways.

Test E + dbol is a great first cycle...

And you said so yourself "test only is perfect" ok then why add proviron? Least you could do is not contradict yourself in your own advice...

The hcg advice you gave is spot on however.

[vettewreck]

Test E + dbol is a great first cycle...

And you said so yourself "test only is perfect" ok then why add proviron ? Least you could do is not contradict yourself in your own advice...

The hcg advice you gave is spot on however.

It is a good cycle... imo just not a good FIRST cycle. People need to know how their bodys respond first before dumping things into it.

Also, I dont consider proviron to be a "steroid ". I really dont even consider it to be an "oral steroid". So imo, i didnt contradict myself. Relax. Proviron keeps bloat down. It has good properties too, but mostly used for staying horny and bloat.

[CMB]

It is a good cycle... imo just not a good FIRST cycle. People need to know how their bodys respond first before dumping things into it.

Also, I dont consider proviron to be a "steroid". I really dont even consider it to be an "oral steroid". So imo, i didnt contradict myself. Relax. Proviron keeps bloat down. It has good properties too, but mostly used for staying horny and bloat.

Right and everybody is entitled to their own opinion.

And interesting that you say that because I never really considered proviron to be a anabolic drug. Thought I was the only one

And sorry if that came off as a flame, should have read it before I posted.

[scotty51312]

I like the cycle but personally Id keep the adex on hand and wouldn't run it unless i experienced any sides.

[bodybuilder]

It is a good cycle... imo just not a good FIRST cycle. People need to know how their bodys respond first before dumping things into it.

I agree with you bro i would hold of on the d-boll till maybe your second cycle. HCG IMO is not going to be necessary at your doses of test but if you already have it why not. It cant hurt plus the stuff is so cheap.

[MBMETC]

400mgs test will definitely shut him down, however I don't think recovery will be a issue with proper pct. That being said running hcg is recommended but it's simply op's choice.
Vette I agree somewhat on the proviron Again I just don't see any reason to run it alongside a ai, the only benefit would be to help with libido but from my experience once the test gets kicking there was nothing keeping my junk down..lol

[ty357]

OP i just came off a 12 week 500mg ew and dbol 30mg ed for 4 weeks in may. That was my 1st cycle for me. Hcg wasnt needed and i honestly didnt use adex i had on hand though. I could say i havent experience no sides. Like above posted keep 1st cycle simple. Good luck

[mrniceguy215]

i agree that test only first cycle is good idea but proviron and test isnt that harsh. I believe this to be a perfect cycle for first time seeing as how benefits out way risks.