How safe is international source/delivery?

[PistolPete76]

I'm not nessesarily worried about my gear getting seized. I'm more worried about having a controled delivery by an undercover.

Those with experiance how often does it happen? Those with international experiance can you give me some numbers like out of 120 orders.... no issues, etc, etc. Thanks

Pete-

[Superhero d-bolman]

unless you order a huge amount, so you look like a distributor, extremely unlikely.

[Superhero d-bolman]

Also lets say you live in the US or canada, its probably a 3-5% chance your pack gets seized.

[joe293]

I've had maybe 4 seizures. And all mine have been only for personal use. It's well known that zips in the US 0-3 are much less likely to get snagged. In other words east coast area. Some suppliers won't even touch the rest of the US.

[Superhero d-bolman]

I've had maybe 4 seizures. And all mine have been only for personal use. It's well known that zips in the US 0-3 are much less likely to get snagged. In other words east coast area. Some suppliers won't even touch the rest of the US.

awesome i live within those zipcodes!!!!! YAY!!!!!

[Bonaparte]

They aren't going to bother doing a controlled delivery unless they have enough evidence on you to convict you of distribution. It just wouldn't be worth the effort.

[PistolPete76]

Thanks for the replies. Do yall recomend a P.O. box? I have a P.O. box but its registered under my own name.

[powerliftmike]

Thanks for the replies. Do yall recomend a P.O. box? I have a P.O. box but its registered under my own name.

I dont think there is a real advantage with PO box. Most likely you have a security camera taping you checking it for one thing.

[JohnnyVegas]

I dont think there is a real advantage with PO box. Most likely you have a security camera taping you checking it for one thing.

Ha! Never would have thought of that.

[Bonaparte]

I dont think there is a real advantage with PO box. Most likely you have a security camera taping you checking it for one thing.

The post offices in my area are open 24/7 (just the PO box area) and don't have cameras directly on the boxes. They'll catch coming in and out the front door, but that's it.

The main problem with a PO box is that its REAL hard to set one up under a fake name. You need a legit form of ID with a photo and your address (a driver's license), AND another document with your name and that same home address on it (like a utility bill, auto registration, ect). And they take both, photocopy them, and send them off somewhere for verification and filing.
Other personal mailboxes like at the UPS store work the same way. Those terrorists really ****ed us, lol.

[pwnflow]

The post offices in my area are open 24/7 (just the PO box area) and don't have cameras directly on the boxes. They'll catch coming in and out the front door, but that's it.

The main problem with a PO box is that its REAL hard to set one up under a fake name. You need a legit form of ID with a photo and your address (a driver's license), AND another document with your name and that same home address on it (like a utility bill, auto registration, ect). And they take both, photocopy them, and send them off somewhere for verification and filing.
Other personal mailboxes like at the UPS store work the same way. Those terrorists really ****ed us, lol.

I won't even want to set up a pobox under fake name even if it was easy. If they find out about it, then they can add charges of identity fraud on top of the gear charges. I won't even try to outsmart them. If they decide to come after you, they will get you.

Also lets say you live in the US or canada, its probably a 3-5% chance your pack gets seized.

I was under the impression that it's harder to ship to Canada than to US.

[voidofRoids]

I was under the impression that it's harder to ship to Canada than to US.

I hope not. Might have to stick domestic.

[AcePowerZ]

Order from somewhere who doesnt require a sig then dont answer the door when they deliver it and they will just leave it

[Duckhombre]

Get to know your delivery person... Best advice I can give.

[Tigershark]

You do not need to worry unless you are ordering enough to run your own operation. For the most part you will be left alone.

[Tigershark]

You do not need to worry unless you are ordering enough to run your own operation. For the most part you will be left alone.

[eGGz]

Some international sources are very clever with their packaging.
Find a good one and stick with them.

[PistolPete76]

Another question... Can I have stuff sent to my P.O. Box addressed with a fake name. In other words a name that doesnt match the registered name on the P.O box. Or will that red flag to post office, or stop them from putting it in my P.O box?

[powerliftmike]

Another question... Can I have stuff sent to my P.O. Box addressed with a fake name. In other words a name that doesnt match the registered name on the P.O box. Or will that red flag to post office, or stop them from putting it in my P.O box?

If package doesnt fit in the box they will keep behind counter and sometimes you will need an ID to pick up. Or at least have addresses match. Pretty sure you cant get a driver's license ID with a PO box as the address either.

[Bonaparte]

Canadian customs are much tighter than the US.

[joe293]

Simply saying keep your orders in the "self use range" is a very grey area. To me 100 amps of Testoviton Depot and 4 HGH kits is a moderate order. You never know what customs agent will be a mood one day and look at all the shiny amps and vials and set up a sting. In court you'll have a hard time convincing anyone that this is your typical 3 month cycle? By then the damage is done. Domestic will keep you safe but costs a little more. Well worth it in most cases but there are also less product availibility. The other option is a UPS Mailbox. They sign for you and will contact you when packages arrive. Don't rush to pick them up. Let them sit for a few days and get to know the counter person.

[Superhero d-bolman]

it's not up to customs whether to pursue a bust i believe that would be ultimately up to the police.

[joe293]

They keep it a federal jurisdiction (customs may turn it over to DEA). They do not turn cases over to local law enforcement but do have to notify them if they are doing a raid in their town. Local LE is used for back up sometimes. If you get hit by a local LE branch it is because they stopped a guy for something that allowed them to search his vehicle and found gear. They will then make their own case and get the driver to roll over on the supplier to lessen or expunge his case.

[Superhero d-bolman]

Here's what i believe

Go international if you live in the us and are on the eastcoast or live in a place with low seizure rates like britain

Go domestic if you live in an area with a high seizure rate

One thing about domestic though is that if the source goes down, then there is a good chance they will start busting the customers.

If its an international source they never do due to the complexities of that.