Why can't I inject into my delt? It keeps failing.

[SomeRandomGuy]

Second try on a medial delt shot. .5cc Test E last time, felt where the muscle was, aspirated, injected, blood shot out, bruising, fail. This was a 1cc Tren E shot, when I aspirated, bubbles came in, no blood. After the injection and as I was pulling out, I saw blood go into the needle and I knew it was gonna be f'd. Tons of blood shot out, instant swelling of the site.

WTF am I doing wrong?

[Bertuzzi]

Its tough to tell on the angle of your pic... but this is where I do my shoulder.... sometimes I get a little blood but it doesn't shoot and no bruise

Shit.... I tried to upload the pic, but this stupid site is giving me errors.... let me try again

[voidofRoids]

How stable is the syringe when inside of the delt? Are you shaking it around or jiggling it?

[Johnyonemove]

You might be crossing through veins on ur way to the muscle? try a new spot if it keeps up, no need for the stress. ur traps look gtg!

[mg0922]

hmm weird. I know alot of the time blood comes out , and its still ok...but if its swelling up alot im not really sure what to say, you ll have to wait for a better response

also, when you do the pin.... once all the oil is injected..do you leave the needle in your arm for about 20-30 seconds?? Ive studied the injection process and have learned to leave the needle in for that duration to let the oil move out of the way. and then after the 20-30 seconds pull the needle out.

[Bertuzzi]

STupid thing won't let me upload....

[SomeRandomGuy]

How stable is the syringe when inside of the delt? Are you shaking it around or jiggling it?

This may be the issue. I basically one handed it with my left hand coming across, it shook a lot... Probably just a lot of blood vessels in this area...

[SomeRandomGuy]

hmm weird. I know alot of the time blood comes out , and its still ok...but if its swelling up alot im not really sure what to say, you ll have to wait for a better response

also, when you do the pin.... once all the oil is injected..do you leave the needle in your arm for about 20-30 seconds?? Ive studied the injection process and have learned to leave the needle in for that duration to let the oil move out of the way. and then after the 20-30 seconds pull the needle out.

I always do this in an attempt to get the blood to clot before withdrawing the needle. I pull halfway and then wait and then pull out.

Used a 1" 22g. Maybe I need a 5/8" 23g or smaller for better results. I don't have gargantuan delts... yet .

[eGGz]

I've had blood shoot out of my delt before.
Must have passed through a vein.
Did surprise me a bit.
I use a 25g 1"
Next time try a slightly different spot, perhaps a tad bit higher, gotta miss that vein you are nicking.

[Far from massive]

I just pinned delts two times in the last 10 days both time I split a 1.3 ml shot of testp between both delts so about .65ml in each delt ( I wanted to get the shoulders used to pinning before putting in a big dose) all 4 times I used a 23x1 needle and tried to insert it about .7" into the delt on each shot, however I have trouble with coordination when pinning the right shoulder and pushed the needle to the hilt while aspirating then withdrew it to about .7" anyway even having some movement etc. all 4 shots went fine.

I am 6.1 and 210 and have always had really spindly ass shoulders so I was worried about depth, while reading up on the subject I found some (really disturbing when you think about it) information on vaccinations where they say that the needle bottoms out and hits bone in about 20% of cases with a 1" needle and 40% with a 1.25" and 60% with a 1.5" needle when fully inserting the needle while giving injections to 8-12 year old girls..so that helped set my mind at ease as I figgured if only 20% of 10 year old girls suffer bone contact I should be O-K so I damn sure would think that you would be too LOL

By the way from everything I read it seemed that the preffered location is the middle of the distance between the acromonian process and the arm pit so you appear to be just a little low (maybe an inch low0 which might put you closer to blood vessels and definately puts you closer to the edge of where the muscle attaches to the bone. I assume of course that you are going straight in on the injection not at an angle? Anyway a picture is worth a thousand words, this one says two finger width below the acromonian process (the pointy bone you can feel with your finger LOl) but I think that this varies a lot person to person depending on the size of the shoulder and how fat or skinny their fingers are, so saying the middle of the area between the process and the armpit will be a more reliable geographic reference.

[Bonaparte]

I always do this in an attempt to get the blood to clot before withdrawing the needle. I pull halfway and then wait and then pull out.

Used a 1" 22g. Maybe I need a 5/8" 23g or smaller for better results. I don't have gargantuan delts... yet .

Use a 1" 25g. 22g is too big for a delt. No wonder you're hitting all sorts of gushers.

[Bertuzzi]

Use a 1" 25g. 22g is too big for a delt. No wonder you're hitting all sorts of gushers.

X2.... I use 1 inch 25G.... its like Butter!

[SomeRandomGuy]

Food for thought. Thanks a lot, guys! I will try it again. Higher up, and with a 25g 1".

[Narkissos]

Looks like you're shooting too low on the delt.

[MBMETC]

^^x2if that big mark on your lower delt is a injection wound( for lack of a better term) deffinately low and outside IMO, try about an inch up and more centered shoot there all the time and never had a problem

[cro]

just shoot the quad , cant miss the target.

[Userat204]

From your pic looks like you need to go up 1 to 1.5 inch and back towards the middle another inch. It looks way to low. And forget the 22g bro you would be better with 25g. I pin my shoulders all the time and may get a spot of blood but nothing major. That 22g is probably too much. An easy way to hit delts is extend your arm straight out in front of you stand on your knees and rest arm/hand on the sink area. This way you are stable and it gives me an raiser range of motion. Just relax the muscle and you should be set.

[yungone501]

just shoot the quad , cant miss the target.

^^^X2^^^

I always inject in quads, alternating sides and locations. The muscle is SOOOO large (im a huge guy!!!!!) that I can inject in about 10 total loactions and by the time I come back around, im GTG!

BTW...im NOT a huge guy... :-(

[Narkissos]

I can't shoot quads at all.

And I never do glutes.

[coonhunter]

too low. raise it up a bit and you will be good to go.

[cro]

why not ?

I can't shoot quads at all.

And I never do glutes.

[yungone501]

Glutes suck for injection, for me, just always a shot in the dark. I have learned to like and appreciated watching the injection not wondering what the f*ck is happening back there!

[beezlebubb666]

Glutes suck for injection, for me, just always a shot in the dark. I have learned to like and appreciated watching the injection not wondering what the f*ck is happening back there!

thats why u do it laying down on the bed

[GetSwole83]

I thought the same as others with it being a bit low...the standard injection procedure in medicine for a delt shot is "2 finger widths inferior to the acromion". Acromion is the bony bump on the outside of your shoulder. Inferior of course meaning below. The main thing you have to worry about with that placement is hitting the subdeltoid bursa...but this usually isnt a prob with a 1" pin. Good luck bro.

[Considering]

I used this link to learn delts. http://www.**************.com/index3.htm I don't aspirate. 1 inch 23 or 25 g. No problems with up to 1.5 cc. Quads are my preferred spot.

[Ashop]

X2.... I use 1 inch 25G.... its like Butter!

I agree,,,go with the 1"

[yungone501]

I used this link to learn delts. http://www.**************.com/index3.htm I don't aspirate. 1 inch 23 or 25 g. No problems with up to 1.5 cc. Quads are my preferred spot.

Just did a 23g 1" with 3cc...No problems.

[stack_it]

I use 5/8" 25g and it's painless and never bleeds. I'll use 1" too but tge pharmacy only had 5/8" last time I went.

[topshelf75]

I dont aspirate and use a 1" 22 or 23 and only have problems when I shoot winny ED. If I hit 'em too often then its like trying to shoot into a rock. From the pics it looks like it might be a LITTLE low, but not low enough where you have those issues. Sometimes I will get blood my first shot or two in any area and then never again. I can't figure out where to shoot in my quads, so I only use delts and glutes.

[Narkissos]

why not ?

Quads suck... and so do glutes.

I hit front delts, side delts, rear delts, and triceps.

At most, I'd hit the ventrogluteal as well... but never the glute max.

Hitting the glutes for me is like playing pin the tail on the donkey.

[mmakid]

go more twords the middle of the face on the delt.

[yungone501]

That, by the way, is one big a$$ delt to be missing. What are you 250+?